NenaMC Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 (edited) I want to purchase this 1984 Toyota Dolphin to live in. I found this dolphin for sale and would like a second opinion on it. Should I buy it? What do I have to look for before I purchase? What’s it worth? It has 53k miles on it. And it’s going for 6k. I offered him 5k and he slightly agreed. So I have only today to decide. Any input is appreciated. thank you. Edited July 24, 2018 by NenaMC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 1st for you to check is the rear axle to see in it has a 6-lug Full Floating one or a 5-lug with false duallies (aka foolies). 2nd is the make, model and age of the tires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenaMC Posted July 23, 2018 Author Share Posted July 23, 2018 (edited) Ok, I’ll check under the rv. The tires, really? What if it’s not 6-lug full floating? Why would one have 5-lug duallies if it’s not good? Edited July 23, 2018 by NenaMC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Even tires that look 'good' with plenty of tread can fail if older than 6 years or so, especially on an RV that can sit for months in the hot California sun. Replacing all of then can cost $600-$1000. Pre-1986, the 5-lug axle was overloaded by the motorhome manufacturers by adding 'foolies' to an axle designed for single wheels. There was a recall. Now expired, so you'd be on your own to correct. Cost? $500 - $4000 (according to some), depending how lucky you are in finding a used replacement and who's doing the installation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 I see some droop in the center of the overhead section. Might have some rot in there and need rebuilding. When buying a motorhome this old rushing into it is never a good idea. 5 grand isn't that cheap and there are other motorhomes out there. Find the right one Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVdaytrader Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Really...if it does not have the full floating axle, imo don't buy it. If it does, check for rot in the cabover by checking under the mattress , the walls and ceiling...tap the areas with your knuckle and if u get sharp RAP sounds it is good...if u get dull THUD sounds it is rotted and very expensive to have someone fix it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 You don't check the rear axle from below. Ask the seller to remove one of the rear hub caps and send you a photo of the lug nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenaMC Posted July 23, 2018 Author Share Posted July 23, 2018 Ok, I’ll post pic of that once I get a shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenaMC Posted July 23, 2018 Author Share Posted July 23, 2018 Omg, thanks ? you guys are life savers! cool group btw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NenaMC Posted July 24, 2018 Author Share Posted July 24, 2018 Hey! Anybody there. Do these look good!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WME Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 The axle looks good. Goggle the net and find out how read the tire dates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenaMC Posted July 24, 2018 Author Share Posted July 24, 2018 Ok thnx WME Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Tires are toast. Bridgestones haven't been sold for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Derek up North said: Tires are toast. Bridgestones haven't been sold for years. Minimum 16 years old but probably older. Last ones were dated 2002. I wouldn't drive it more than a few miles to a tires store. Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexxxel Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Plus, look at the tires in the tire pics, they're all cracked with huge weathering issues. Crappy even without knowing the age! And what is that, black spray paint over the inner portion of the rims and the axle? What's that hiding? I always question what people are hiding with fresh spray paint... many older vehicles people will take black spray paint to the underside just to hide the rust. Fools some people I guess. If you went to see the vehicle in person and didn't know those tires were bad, you are missing other things for sure about the vehicle itself, and the camper. You need to get a mechanic or inspection company to go see any vehicle you are interested in buying, because you don't know enough yourself to understand what you're getting into. If you can't fix things yourself it is going to be cheaper to buy a new rv! Places charge $125-$150 AN HOUR just to do cosmetic stuff (which is a giant rip off as it's not skilled labor, and mostly it's high school kids doing the work, but that's what you pay). More for skilled work. An older camper can be a money pit. And an old truck can cost $$$ in maintenance and repair. Make sure you know what you're getting. Something that has been meticulously maintained is well worth the added up front cost (which will be a lot more than $5000) unless you can do all the necessary work yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenaMC Posted July 26, 2018 Author Share Posted July 26, 2018 8 hours ago, lexxxel said: Plus, look at the tires in the tire pics, they're all cracked with huge weathering issues. Crappy even without knowing the age! And what is that, black spray paint over the inner portion of the rims and the axle? What's that hiding? I always question what people are hiding with fresh spray paint... many older vehicles people will take black spray paint to the underside just to hide the rust. Fools some people I guess. If you went to see the vehicle in person and didn't know those tires were bad, you are missing other things for sure about the vehicle itself, and the camper. You need to get a mechanic or inspection company to go see any vehicle you are interested in buying, because you don't know enough yourself to understand what you're getting into. If you can't fix things yourself it is going to be cheaper to buy a new rv! Places charge $125-$150 AN HOUR just to do cosmetic stuff (which is a giant rip off as it's not skilled labor, and mostly it's high school kids doing the work, but that's what you pay). More for skilled work. An older camper can be a money pit. And an old truck can cost $$$ in maintenance and repair. Make sure you know what you're getting. Something that has been meticulously maintained is well worth the added up front cost (which will be a lot more than $5000) unless you can do all the necessary work yourself. F*** should have said it sooner, I already bought the thing. Stay tuned for all bullsh*t coming your way on toyotamotorhome.com ( i gotta take it lightly but my wallet won’t) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 We told you the tires were toast right away and I warned you about the possible rot issues in the overhead. Hope it's not too bad cause yeah fixing these old campers, if you can't do it yourself, can be very expensive. Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred heath Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Hey, Relax. Tires are not that big or a deal when you consider you bagged a 6 lug ff axle. Yeah it may need some work, but you got your own roof over your own head. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Tires are pretty much something I would always expect to replace when buying a vehicle. I think the condition of your new home looks absolutely amazing! Very clean and in great shape, even the step looks good! Pay extra attention to where the corner molding sections meet. I've had a little experience with the roof metal shifting over time and causing a bit of a leak. You may also want to pull the strip out of the center of the molding, to see if your screws are rusty. That can usually be a bad sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WME Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Not a lot of joy, but even a "good" used car will cost you $300-500 to make it right. Thats just life in the fast lane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunkaman Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 can someone explain the air hose (s) on the rims? does one feed to the other? thanks. joe from dover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WME Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 1 hose, 1 tire. Plan B.https://www.amazon.com/Jili-Online-Pieces-Extension-Extender/dp/B071WW54R4/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1532644043&sr=8-7&keywords=dual+rear+tire+valve+extensions.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenaMC Posted July 27, 2018 Author Share Posted July 27, 2018 (edited) Hey Squirrel, thank you. it is a neat well maintained trailer. No signs of water damage. The car runs fine. I’m gunna have a mechanic friend tune it up for me, smog it. I will check the screws outside to see if there’s any rust. Thanks everybody for your concern. I’m happy with my trailer. Has everything I need and super compact. I’ll be living on these forums now. I would just want to learn how to water proof it/how and what type of caulking cuz I can see it around the crevices of the trailer oh, and as for the tires I’m gunna check at all the tire shops in town, eBay, Craigslist, offer up, letgo...etc. Pretty sure I’ll find some. 185R14/C or D , is that correct? Edited July 27, 2018 by NenaMC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 I've heard a few conflicting things on caulking, but generally people agree that silicone is not suitable. I'm assuming that you have a 22r? Be careful which mechanic you let mess with it. Usually in a big shop, there will be maybe one person who knows how to tune a carb. In my experience, most mechanics you take it to will use it as a "learning experience", so beware. It is pretty common to see them look it up on youtube before they pull off your air cleaner. But those old Toyota engines REALLY want to run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 On the topic of tires, I believe Linda has found a good deal. 4 hours ago, linda s said: Reasonably priced tires all with free shipping. https://www.tires-easy.com/tires/185-Blank-14 Linda S I normally get my tires from unrepeatable sources, like some guy selling them out of a storage unit. Also worth noting, Walmart will mount your tires for $5 piece, or at least that is what they did for my last tire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Many Wal-Mart's will not mount dually tires. Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 (edited) Oh, hi Linda. I always remove them myself and carry them in. I wonder if that is why they have always mounted them for me? I even had them mount a scooter tire, once. There has been an occasion where I had to bring them a valve stem though, because they only seemed to have the "regular" kind. Edited July 27, 2018 by Squirrel Further information Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Wal-Mart installed new wheel balancing machines in lots of stores that can't do our dually wheels. Best to call first Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 22 minutes ago, linda s said: Wal-Mart installed new wheel balancing machines in lots of stores that can't do our dually wheels. Best to call first Linda S I could be wrong, but I think the problem is the larger than typical hole in the wheel center that they don't often have the needed adapter for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenaMC Posted July 27, 2018 Author Share Posted July 27, 2018 thank you Linda those are cheaper than the ones I been looking at. Does brand matter? There’s two Walmart’s close to me. I will call them and see if they can install them in the back dually axle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 I have heard good things about both the Thunderer and the Ecovan. Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 I'd go with these:- https://www.amazon.com/Hankook-Vantra-RA18-185R14-102R/dp/B01G2BX64W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenaMC Posted July 28, 2018 Author Share Posted July 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Derek up North said: I'd go with these:- https://www.amazon.com/Hankook-Vantra-RA18-185R14-102R/dp/B01G2BX64W $522 for all six...? pretty good. you think if I go generic brand I’ll get problems with the tires? found some for 50 bucks a tire ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 What brand did you find for 50 bucks. I have Goform tires on my rig and they were pretty cheap, $60. I have had no problems with them and they are all season. Really grip the road. Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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