Scott2013 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 And yes i'm new here, so if this has been mentioned B-4 my opolog'z, I am looking for any info or supply on 15" six bolt wheels, full float. at this time of reconstruction on this vehicle, if I cant find them at say a reasonable $$$ I my just go after market and sell the factory unit. Thanx for any help or ideas on this situation ............ Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WME Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Are you wanting to run duallys or single rears?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott2013 Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 WME, thank you 4 the response, I hope this gets bk to you, the navigation on this forum is ??? Well anyway if I can find them will more than likely stay dual, that being what width I have to work with. but i'm open to anything. thanx again .......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 15 inch wheels for the full float axle can be bought here. http://www.customcommercialwheel.com/ Quite a few Sunrader 4x4 owners have bought them when they upgraded to a full float axle Why do you want 15 inch wheels on your Dolphin. Single wheels are probably an option but your stability on turns would be effected quite a bit on your full sized coach. Speedometer would be off. Tires are harder to find and much more expensive. Lots of bad and not so much good with this change Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott2013 Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 thanx Linda, speedo is of no concern at this time, will change tranny shaft gear, no biggy... 15" tires are less $$$ than 14" and much easier to find,and i'm searching tires with a more aggressive pattern. I have a real bad habit of not leaving things alone, after 15 + years in a Toyota only salvage yard you get to the point where as it came ! Well, that just don't do it no more....this camper is being retroe'd to a 94' x-tra cab 4x4 frame, I have add'd secondary spring pads to the axel top. I actually just put this unit on the board for sale, w/ 4 wheels ,springs, drv. shaft & sway bar, thank you again for the info and the site,,,, have a grt. aftr/nn Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WME Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Well if your looking at the C&C site, might as well look at 16" rims too. Even more tires to chose from. Just ebay LT tires Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stamar Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Just one thing 15 inch tires are way easier to find. They are everywhere in stck. More expensive but way easier to find Load range d tires in 14 are an order item here in central cali. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stamar Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 16 inch wheels you can use tires from the sprinter vans single wheel. One tire is definitely cheaper than two so is one wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 thanx Linda, speedo is of no concern at this time, will change tranny shaft gear, no biggy... 15" tires are less $$$ than 14" and much easier to find,and i'm searching tires with a more aggressive pattern. I have a real bad habit of not leaving things alone, after 15 + years in a Toyota only salvage yard you get to the point where as it came ! Well, that just don't do it no more....this camper is being retroe'd to a 94' x-tra cab 4x4 frame, I have add'd secondary spring pads to the axel top. I actually just put this unit on the board for sale, w/ 4 wheels ,springs, drv. shaft & sway bar, thank you again for the info and the site,,,, have a grt. aftr/nn S Hope your lightening the load of that Dolphin coach. They made these things with duallies and full float axles for a reason. With the standard axle you really have to stay with single wheels and you already have 15's on it I'm guessing. Then even with 15 singles your going to need D load range in the back at least. Maybe 16 is a better idea Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefdave Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Hi this is interesting topic. as with 15" wheels i would be able to specially made rv tyres made for european market. so no rating probs a single tyre in this format would be able to support 3/4 of a ton. so with duallies i would have a massive safety buffer on weight. weather the cost of going down this route would be viable would need more research. due a set of new tyres this year. another costing to add on to my costing list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanAatTheCape Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 your tire cost comments are interesting - are you pricing c or d load rated tires? yes 15' car tires are cheap but if you are running a toy camper I bet that is NOT what you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulnptld Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Really interesting topic. Any idea how much converting to 15" wheels would cost? Would it just be the rears or can the fronts be done as well? Is it a lot of work to swap them out? I suspect this will make it considerably easier to find tires, particularly for the winter months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stamar Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 your tire cost comments are interesting - are you pricing c or d load rated tires? yes 15' car tires are cheap but if you are runnign a toy camper I bet that is NOT what you want.For 185 15 I find that tires are a little more expensive but easier to find. Truck tires that are better than the ones we use.I dont have 15 inch wheels just the 14 inch ones though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott2013 Posted January 14, 2014 Author Share Posted January 14, 2014 Hi Linda,WME,stamar,chefdav, I guess a lot of things on the west side come to big $$$ diff. than here on the east side. yes 15" tires are much easier to find and are less than most 14" w/high load rate,,, 16" R a great option be'g some what close in $$$ range also. THE big issue now is tire size to stay clear of springs, but keep a safe bearing load, this will in tail correct back space & offsets,,,,, chefdav ! you may consider that route of wider single wheels, in a 15 / 16" you can go out to 7 or 8 in width, keep one of your old 14" wheels as your spare..... have not chk'd into the 16 category yet, this may present a clearance problem for some, as to a taller tire may rub on a vertical situation, too short of tire will allow a belly rub on the dual set up my control over spring sag & vertical hiegth tire rub, has been address'd by new spring pads on the axel top, gaining over 2 in right off, Roll control w/ some simple sway bar updates. maybe this will create some more interest here,,,, I ALSO have a qstn. 4 anyone out there, is there a way I may find a florida based toy/mtr-home group,,, could not find anything in navigating this site ..... Thanx to all have a grt day ............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott2013 Posted January 14, 2014 Author Share Posted January 14, 2014 good morn'g kid's ,,,, yes all tires look'd, priced, that bear interest R of course a D - load min . in a side note of shop'g E-bay, there have been some problems w/ recv'g tires that R out of date, nad then the situation of recourse when out on the road and hav'g a problem,,,, happy for those it work'd,, but in my exprnce, I want to see it, touch it, kick it..... paul ..... as of just ystrday, I was priced 15" wheels @ 156.00 ea. so there your concern of all 6, or maybe just 4,i.e. rear only. would be to carry'g A spare -or- 2 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefdave Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Hi scott 2013 Just like to point that i live in uk. interesting going down one rear wheel only, problem with that is a would need a low profile tyre to fill rim width and not alter gearing. not likely to find this tyre type in d rating or van spec. have read in other forums with camper attached to truck bed duellies are 100% recommended for stability and carrying the increased total all up weight. remember my dolphin has approx 2 ton on rear axle and 1 ton on front axle. unless an expert can come up with a benefit to go from duellies to single without endangering load capitcity and safety of motorhome and other members of the public going about their daily business. i have expeniced a front tyre going flat in a matter of minutes on a sprinter van. something i would never wish to experiance again. you try fighting a violently shaking steering wheel and unresponsive steering. both van and me made it safety of service station with no damage. Just pointing out what seems a good idea may not be as good as first thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 If I'm not mistaken, there a a number of 4x4 Sunraders rolling quite happily and safely on single rear 15" wheels. Continental, for example, offers a 225/65R16 Vanco2 which is rated R112/110, which would be enough as singles. http://www.national.co.uk/tyres/brand/continental/vanco-contact-2/#reviews http://cache.toyotires.com/sites/default/files/imce/load_index_table_0.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott2013 Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 Hello chefdav, and yes I totally agree w/ the single wheel situation, was just a thought, and I truthfully know nothing of what you may have in avblty across the big bay. the entertainment involved in a front tire deflate I am fully aware of, my daily driver is an F-350 S/D, 4x4, Crew/C Dually L/B. at 24 ft. long, and w/ my attached trailer of 40' a frt. tire event can be a serious problem. Derek, thanx 4 the tire spec's. as far as the sunrader 4x4's, they have a quite diff. weight situation, the rear diff assbly be'g of the Toyota H/D series (i.e. 4x4 carrier, axel size, and bearing rate ) makes them some what very strong. I did like mine @ the time for the fact of a very short bob tail. again my tire interest is for a more aggressive patterns in this new adventure. time spent in the TN. hills of winter, and pulling a 1500 lb trailer, I nd just a lill more traction than what they call an all wthr. tire thank you 4 all the info and feed back, as mentioned B-4 I rarely leave things alone when it comes to updating or retro-fit'g from one to another, I dumped the auto tranny, ( the previuos owner was not friendly to it ) I run a 4-spd mnl now, the motor is a cross breed 20 / 22r, with cam and headers, holley down draft E.F.I. building a steady 180 hp. a diesel radiator, elec fans, secondary batt under hood, pre-loaded torsion bars, and Oh so many other goofy updates. : ))) the one thing I have never done is to behind load my rear bumper. any xtra items ride on the front bmpr, this has given me a huge weight dist. advantage. again thanx 2 all ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, have a grt day ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefdave Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Hi scott just out curosity i did a search on tyres for single wheel, yes they make some but price is way to high £150 per tyre. i would also need to carry two spares one for front and one for rear. Ummmmm will talk to wheel and tyre specialist before dismissing idea. :-) :-) :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Before you get too involved in the tyre choice, you'll have to resolve the source of rims to fit the oddball (at least in North America) 1-Ton Toyota Bolt Circle. They need to be custom made here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefdave Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Derek up north bugger. thats put paid to that idea as mine is US import. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 It's worth checking in the UK. There MIGHT be vehicles over with you that use the same bolt circle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott2013 Posted January 16, 2014 Author Share Posted January 16, 2014 Morng Derek, the source for the 15" or 16" wheels in the need'd bolt pattern R @ custom / commercial, the web site that Linda s was nice enough to supply 2 me. yes the wheels R custom, and after speaking to Ray the owner they can B had in many diff. config's. he also can supply an adapter for the older 5-bolt patt. that allows the use of the dually config to B used on the front. this is a very convenient item at least to me and the project I have @ hand. the piks that float around Mtr/Hme web sites that show a 4x4 w/ dually wheels up frt are the pc.s that R avbl thru this cstm / comm web site. these R the adapters that I will run on this xtra cab cnvrsn that is @ hand now. I will only have 2 carry one old 14" spare wheel w/ a 14" / 85 series tire to get home on..... for me very convenient..... Good all ................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott2013 Posted January 16, 2014 Author Share Posted January 16, 2014 Chefdav, Hi ! maybe one thing you may have advantage of,? not know'g of the motor sports program in the UK, if you mite know some road racers or oval track, dirt, sprinters, these were the first people to make custom wheels for me when I was do'g i.m.s.a. & road course rac'g. they are specialist in off-sets and back spacing because we run 2 / 3 diff. wheels on the car at the same time. I had them use my center ring (bolt patt ) then make a new wheel for that ring,,,, this could really off-set your price in your favor and maybe give you some new options. you could re-invent the wheel so to speak on your side of the bay...... you'll be the new fad favorite. Just Think'g out loud .................. have a grt. day ................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefdave Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Hi scott thats a good pointer. loads of places advertise rims for road and competition. will make inquiries thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Competition you say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayakthecoast Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I'm rolling on 15" wheels and a guy in OR has 15's on his 85 Sunrader too. My Front 2 are not same rim as back 4. My only spare is for the front. Perhaps thats all I need being I'm running duallys? Anyone had a rear flat and able to limp home? Maybe this isn't possible being that the outer rear holds the inner tire on? Or should I hunt down a spare? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I'm rolling on 15" wheels and a guy in OR has 15's on his 85 Sunrader too. My Front 2 are not same rim as back 4. My only spare is for the front. Perhaps thats all I need being I'm running duallys? Anyone had a rear flat and able to limp home? Maybe this isn't possible being that the outer rear holds the inner tire on? Or should I hunt down a spare? I have had flats twice on one of the duallies . Driving on the remaining tire was no problem. Kept it at about 30mph and stopped at the nearest place that could at least patch it. I was lucky though both times it was valve stem failure not the tire. Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanman Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 linda s I have had flats twice on one of the duallies . Driving on the remaining tire was no problem. Kept it at about 30mph and stopped at the nearest place that could at least patch it. I was lucky though both times it was valve stem failure not the tire. Linda S Linda, were those the stock Toyota brass valve stems?? and did they break or the O ring seal fail ?? TIA John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Rubber ones. On outside tire each time. Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stamar Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I have had two dually flata both times the outside tire. The second time I had to wait for a tire for a week so I also drove it around town. Stay slow like 25 mph It definitely cannot handle the weight and compresses . It is scary but it never popped in a week. Its happened twice so now I feel confident. First it explodes . For a few miles it will be really noisy until the tread gets broken. This is dangerous as steel threads could easily poke the inside tire. Then its not so noisy. The remaining tire looks kinda flat even with 60 psi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stamar Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 The thing with duallys and the 5 lug spare is you can actually take the tire off the spare and put it on th e dually and inflat it if you pack the tools. But for different size wheels obviously not the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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