Della Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Thank you for your quick response I really appreciate it! to clarify a 1 ton is the same as a full float yeah? Thanks for helping out a newbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, Della said: ... a 1 ton is the same as a full float ... Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Della Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Thank you so much for your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WME Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Good news, good 1 ton axle. Not "bad" news but you probably have a 5 bolt front wheel. So take off the front hub cap and see what you got. The problem is IF you have a flat. Your spare is most likely a 5 bolt, so the front axle is covered. If the flat is in the back then, you have no spare. The normal drill is to remove the flat and drive to a repair shop. You will have 3 tires in the back, they will be very close to their max rating (but under the limit) so drive slow. A small 12v compresser will let you inflate the single tire to max pressure. Several of us have had to limp over 100mi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 No real need to remove the front hubcap, since there are no hubcaps known to man that will fit over a 6-lug wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Della Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Good to know, so if I understand correctly I would not be able to get a spare tire to keep to replace a back flat on my own? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey 4x4 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, Della said: Good to know, so if I understand correctly I would not be able to get a spare tire to keep to replace a back flat on my own? The 6 lug rims of that style are getting tough to find but they pop up here and there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WME Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 (edited) Basic choices. 1. Do nothing and limp to repair $ 2. Buy a spare 6 bolt rim and tire. $$ Where to keep 2 spare tires. 3. Buy a 5 bolt/6 bolt adapter and a 6 bolt spare. $$$ Flat in rear just bolt it on, flat in front bolt on the adapter then the 6 bolt spare tire. 4. Buy 2 adapters and 6 bolt spare, $$$$ Easy peasey tire change any axle. FWIW I driven RVs for 24 years and about 95000 mi and had 3 flats. 1 spike and 2 tire failures Edited April 24, 2020 by WME Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Della Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Got it, thanks so much for your insight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WME Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Oops #4 was supposed to be 2 adapters and 3 6 bolt rims Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoriaR :) Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Hi everyone! Thank you for this wonderful resource. I'm reaching out for some help from everyones knowledge on the axle issues with Sunraders! Tomorrow I'm going to look at a 1986 Toyota Sunrader with 60k miles, for 10k. I see it has the five lug nugs, but cannot tell if it's one that would be recalled/unsafe? I'll attach photos below. Thanks so much again! -Victoria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WME Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 All 5 bolt axles are BAD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred heath Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 3 hours ago, VictoriaR said: Hi everyone! Thank you for this wonderful resource. I'm reaching out for some help from everyones knowledge on the axle issues with Sunraders! Tomorrow I'm going to look at a 1986 Toyota Sunrader with 60k miles, for 10k. I see it has the five lug nugs, but cannot tell if it's one that would be recalled/unsafe? I'll attach photos below. Thanks so much again! -Victoria Those are molded hubcaps. You need to remove one of the rears and count the wheel lug nuts behind it. If only 5 lug nuts the axle is unsafe and will need to be replaced. Nice looking rig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 8 hours ago, VictoriaR said: I see it has the five lug nuts, but cannot tell if it's one that would be recalled/unsafe? If it has 5 lug nuts, it was included in the Recall. The 'improved' 5-lug axle "that wasn't Recalled" does not exist. It is a myth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoriaR :) Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Thanks so much! I went today and the owner took off the hubcaps, there. are six-lugs! Wooohoooo. asking 10k, going to offer possibly 8k since the owner suggested he would accept a lower price. I'm a college student too so any savings are great. I'm looking to install solar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Sunraders sell fast and that is a good price. Don't wait or it will be gone Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoriaR :) Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Awesome! I'm looking for a mechanic in the Groveland/Orlando, Florida area. Contacting a few waiting to hear back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoriaR :) Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Drove like a dream today, biggest thing I'd driven was a Chevy Astro Conversion 2000. Any advice on running the VIN? One website told me 1985 rather than the 1986 listed on the post for sale. Still, definitely has the 6 lug nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoriaR :) Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Is this sketchy? Or still okay. Lol thanks everyone. Let me know if I'm posting some questions on the wrong thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, VictoriaR said: Let me know if I'm posting some questions on the wrong thread. Well, now that we have the axle question answered, best to continue in the other Sections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred heath Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 1 hour ago, VictoriaR said: Drove like a dream today, biggest thing I'd driven was a Chevy Astro Conversion 2000. Any advice on running the VIN? One website told me 1985 rather than the 1986 listed on the post for sale. Still, definitely has the 6 lug nuts. Many coach manufacturers bought Toyota cab and chassis’s in bulk. It may show up as a 1985 (year of manufacture) or 1986 as model year. They didn’t assign a model year until the mh was actually produced. Nothing sketchy, just the way things work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB8811 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Hello, I recently got myself an 86 Mirage with a bathroom. It's an auto with the 22RE. I was taking the tires off to flush the brake fluid when on the driver side I broke two studs and their lug nuts right off. After doing my research which I wish I did before it looks like the threads are reversed. So now I need to order obviously the new left hand studs, left hand lug nuts and I am not sure what the backside nuts for the stud should be. I found the left hand studs, left hand lug nuts but I do not know if the backside nuts are also left handed or not or if they are "normal". Thanks, any help would be great on the back nuts for the studs. -Brody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WME Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 At this point in time, just order a set of right hand thread, studs and bolts. They will work just fine, the 87 up Toys had right hand threads all the way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 I can't be sure, but is suspect the nuts on the back are just regular thread. I'm curious where you found LH studs and nuts. Perhaps Toyota has decided to stock them again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB8811 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 10 hours ago, WME said: At this point in time, just order a set of right hand thread, studs and bolts. They will work just fine, the 87 up Toys had right hand threads all the way around. Thats what I am thinking now too. Less confusion and less to have to remember in the future. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Yes Toyota has the left hand bolts and nuts listed again. They also have the cone washers listed and they are all right hand thread so no difference between 86 and 87 there Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinswelsh@yahoo.com Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Hi all, I recently bought a 1976 Scat Toyota with a 20R 5-speed. It has the foolies. I have located a 1988 Toyota FF dually axle. Can anyone here let me know if there will be compatability issues and, if so, what adapter parts would be necessary? Is there a better donor axle that I should be looking for? Thanks, Colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 You know all you have to do is remove the foolies and use a single wheel in the back. Your Scat is way too light to need a full float dually. The foolies caused the damage so just get rid of them. I do not believe your Scat even came with the foolies originally. Think someone added them before anyone knew they were such a problem. Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81 MiniCruiser Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) Just bought a 1981 Toyota Mini-Cruiser, Mark 8 (I believe that’s the interior layout) - it’s 17’ and has dual back tires (and 94k on the odometer) - I’m not very savvy with this stuff, and we already purchased on Friday, but I’ve taken photos and included here. Hope this thread is still active and we didn’t just buy a huge problem. my wife and I just wanted something small to make small (2 hr or less) trips in Iowa where we live. Edited July 6, 2020 by 81 MiniCruiser Added additional photo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Yeah it's the bad one. Your tiny camper though would be fine with single wheels in the back. You can buy 4 new wheels and 4 new tires for about a thousand lees than an axle upgrade. Those axles are getting hard to find too. Slightly wider tires would give you extra load capacity to make up for only having one tire in the back. https://simpletire.com/thunderer-205-r14c-th0309-tires?type=0 New 7 inch wheels would be a better fit and you could make them look awesome. https://www.ebay.com/b/Wheels/43953?_fsrp=0&Rim%20Diameter=14&Bolt%20Pattern=5x114%2E3&_sop=15&Rim%20Width=7&_sacat=43953&rt=nc&Offset=%2D2|0|1|3 Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAdolph92 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Are all 5 lugs bad? A friend of mine has a 79 Toyota. He tore off the original camper and built a custom RV - looks more like a tiny home on wheels now. It has dual rear tires and 5 lugs. I had heard you can tell whether you have the bad axle if you have dual single rear tires. Not true I’m gathering? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 No, just the ones with the fake dual wheels. In other countries where Toyota campers were built they always just had single wheels in the back. The foolies, fake duallys, can last for years sometimes but it doesn't mean an axle failure can't happen at any time. Your friend has just been lucky Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAdolph92 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 17 minutes ago, linda s said: No, just the ones with the fake dual wheels. In other countries where Toyota campers were built they always just had single wheels in the back. The foolies, fake duallys, can last for years sometimes but it doesn't mean an axle failure can't happen at any time. Your friend has just been lucky Linda S What do the fake ones look like? Any photos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny78 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 These are the foolies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81 MiniCruiser Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Those look totally different than mine - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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