zilla916 Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 I have a 86 Sun-Land Express. It appears I have the LH studs on the left rear. Are the left front studs left hand as well? Quote
linda s Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 No just the rear tires. When I've had tires installed I literally hover outside the door to make sure they listened to me and you must always tell anyone who is going to remove the tires. Lots of members have ended up with sheared off studs from repair guys who didn't know or didn't listen Linda S Quote
timmyd25 Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 (edited) Defrag4, 1st time poster here. I recently acquired a 1988 Sunrader 4 cyl. It needs a full break job, from calipers to needing the flexible break lines replaced. Where do I find the specific model number you posted to confirm the parts you listed will fit my coach? Thanks Tim Edited May 14, 2020 by timmyd25 Quote
Derek up North Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 1 hour ago, timmyd25 said: Defrag4, 1st time poster here. I recently acquired a 1988 Sunrader 4 cyl. It needs a full break job, from calipers to needing the flexible break lines replaced. Where do I find the specific model number you posted to confirm the parts you listed will fit my coach? Thanks Tim I think your VIN should be enough to find parts. Quote
timmyd25 Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Derek up North said: I think your VIN should be enough to find parts. Thanks for the info. This baby is gunna need some elbow grease for sure. Will regular auto parts stores carry or can get the parts I need? Or do I have to go through toyota? Or both? Quote
Derek up North Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 If you go back to the first post, you'll see that just about all the part numbers are for Aftermarket suppliers, and all those can probably be cross-referenced to other Aftermarket suppliers and Toyota PNs. Quote
WME Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 If now is not needed, try Rockauto https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/toyota,1988,pickup Quote
luckylinda Posted September 3, 2020 Posted September 3, 2020 Hi, I have a 1985 Toyota Dolphin - 20 ft. I've owned it 4 years. I do have the retrofitted 1-ton rear axle with full-floating, 6 lug wheels - dualies. I now (today) have a rear drum brakes that need replacing and as it turns out, the mechanic shop got the wrong part and can't find the parts. They tell me I need to know which axle I have - other than what I have said here. I'm in Flagstaff Arizona. Can anyone here help with info or parts? Quote
linda s Posted September 3, 2020 Posted September 3, 2020 Here's your brake shoes. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000CAW4NE/ref=au_as_r?_encoding=UTF8&Make=Toyota|76&Model=Pickup|230&Year=1986|1986&ie=UTF8&vehicleId=3&vehicleType=automotive The key that it is for the dual wheel chassis is the 3w If you need more parts just ask Linda S Quote
luckylinda Posted September 3, 2020 Posted September 3, 2020 Hey Linda S, thanks! I don't know much about brake parts. These shoes are for the drum brakes? Mechanics said I need "this & that" (my words) and springs - etc. How do I know what to order for total break job? What does 3w stand for? Quote
luckylinda Posted September 3, 2020 Posted September 3, 2020 I'm having a difficult time using the site. Hopefully I'll figure it out! It is wonderful to experience the sharing. still need more brake info. Quote
WME Posted September 3, 2020 Posted September 3, 2020 (edited) A rear brake job has much more than brake shoes. Labor is a major part of the project, so "saving" money by not buying a $10 part is not a good idea. From memory 😆 here is most of what you need. Rear brake shoes, rear brake cylinders, an inner and outer axle seals. Depending on what things look like you may also need inner and outer rear axle bearings and a brake spring kit. All this is for one side. MAKE SURE the mechanic knows that the Toyota rear axle bearings are lubed by the rear axle lube and not by packing the bearings, the rear axle seals are IMPORTANT. There is a full list of things with part numbers in the first post in this thread Edited September 4, 2020 by WME Quote
linda s Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 Rear axle bearings are not lube by axle. That's what those seals are for. Packing bearings is all the line they get Linda S This is not a dana Quote
luckylinda Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 Thank you both Linda S & WME. I appreciate the info have copied it all down. I am much more informed and am glad the yesterday mechanics couldn't find the parts as they likely wouldn't have done the job correctly. As far as parts list at beginning of topic - I don't understand. Does the '88 pickup have the same rear axle? Or would the brake shoe parts from Amazon lead me to all the rest? Vin # doesn't do it as that's also what the yesterday mechanics used. What do I say to order all the correct parts, or for the mechanic to order? Yesterday they told me I needed the specific axle info. I really do appreciate your time and efforts on my account. Thanks again. Quote
linda s Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 Like WME said all the parts are in the first post on this thread Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) 1-Ton Rear Axle Parts DRW BrakeBest Drum Brake Hardware Kit - Part # 17215 - https://amzn.to/2BA9Rq8 BrakeBest Select Brake Shoes - Part # 523 - https://amzn.to/2Bzq5QE Bearing seal - National Oil Seal 226285 - https://amzn.to/2DYL4P1 Inner Axle Lip Seal - National Oil Seal 710076 - https://amzn.to/2r2qlS6 Rear Wheel Cylinder - Dorman W37654 - https://amzn.to/2S9QUAa Axle Shaft Hub Seal/Paper Gasket - Toyota Part No.: 43422-60040 Rear Wheel Studs - Dorman 610-339 - https://amzn.to/2TKuG9w Rear wheel stud nut - Toyota Part No.: 94115-71400 Rear Wheel stud washer - Toyota Part No.: 90201-14006 6-Lug Acorn Wheel Nut - Dorman 611-118 - https://amzn.to/2S9fWPO Wheel Nut Toyota Part No. - 90942-01055 I would buy the brake shoes I posted though. Better brand Your vin is useless to find rear axle parts because that rear axle didn't come on your rig. It was upgraded, probably by National Rv after the recall. 3W is a part of the model number in all Toyota full float dually trucks from 1986 to 1993. Does your mechanic realize that he has to pull the axle to get to the brakes? Ask him and if he says no that's wrong find another mechanic Linda S Quote
luckylinda Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 Thanks Linda, I definitely won't be using same mechanic. Wow! Didn't know you had to pull axle for the job. But hey, I only want it done right! Are the brake shoes the only thing you'd buy the other/better brand, as far as the list goes? All the rest good? this is an extremely great help. Now I have to find the right mechanic. If you think of something else I should know - please share. Quote
linda s Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 Some of the parts listed you probably don't need. The wheel stud and stud nut are to put your tires on. Not part of brake job. Also the listing for acorn is the axle bolt. Those are probably ok too the Toyota part right under that is the acorn nut that you will need to replace. Most people don't replace wheel cylinders if they are not leaking but in this case with any work being such an extensive job replace them for good measure. Remember there are 2 sides here so order enough for both sides, 2 each of seal , etc. Oh and all the rest is fine. Just like the shoes I posted way better Linda S Quote
luckylinda Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 I appreciate the good advice and details. If I can just find a mechanic that wants to do the work that has to be done - life will be good! Thanks very much, I've no doubt you're very aware how much I needed this information. I'm in Flagstaff, AZ - if anyone has a mechanic recommendation. Quote
linda s Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 I sent you message about mechanic. I think he is closer to Phoenix but not really sure. Will let you know as soon as I get his info Linda S Quote
Ski Tom Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 Thanks for putting this parts list together...used it to rebuild my rear brakes recently. I decided to just change out everything since it requires some work to get into the drums. I did notice one thing with the Rear Wheel Cylinder - Dorman W37654. They appear to be a exact match except for the brake line port. W37654 has US thread 3/8-24, but all the brake flare fittings on the camper are all Metric 10mm-1.0. They will thread in but easily crossthread. Has anyone else run into this issue? I am going to cut the lines and switcth the flare fittings to US thread instead of removing the wheel cylinders. Looked around for a similar 7/8 bore wheel cylinder for 1 ton trucks with Metric Thread but have not found one yet. Quote
linda s Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 Refresh my memory. Do you have an upgraded full floater? Linda Quote
Ski Tom Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 Yes, it was upgraded to the full float. I kinda assumed the drum brakes and hard lines to the "T" union were all part of the rear end upgrade correct? If it was a Toyota full float axle, wouldnt all the brake fittings be Metric? Or were there various rear ends uses for these upgrades? Quote
linda s Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 Rock Auto has several and that part number is among them. I can't imagine a company making parts for a Toyota without it being metric. Could the part you got have been packaged wrong?. Here's what they've got and all of these have the Toyota factory part number as alternate part # ending in 26090 Just curious do you have custom 15 inch dually wheels in the back? Linda Daily Driver BECK/ARNLEY 0728396 {#4755026090, P9466, WC37654} Info FitsRear; RWD; 1 TonorRear; RWD; Cab & Chassis $10.23 Add to Cart RAYBESTOS WC37654 {#2037654, 4755026090, 4755029265} Element3 Info Rear; RWD; Cab & Chassis; Standard Cab Pickup; w/ 1 Ton Chassis $11.10 Add to Cart Economy ADVICS WCT005 {#4755026090} ADVICS Original Equipment Manufacturer Info FitsLeft or Right; 2WD, 1 Ton ChassisorRear; RWD; 1 Ton Chassis / Cab & Chassis; 7/8" Bore 1 Day Delay $15.63 Add Quote
Ski Tom Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 When i went to thread in the brake line it stripped out the flare nut. When i looked up the part number on Dormans website it lists the part for Toyota 1-ton, but 3/8-24 port thread. https://www.dormanproducts.com/p-25723-w37654.aspx The wheels appear to be custom 6 lug steel wheels. Quote
linda s Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 I would send them an email and ask why it isn't metric. Tell them you have 10,000 Toyota group members who need to know. Maybe not that many here but between all the groups there are and I have a big mouth. Nice rig Linda S Oh and you have a vented door under the 4X4 label. Is there still a generator in there? Oh and did you buy this rig from Steve? Quote
Ski Tom Posted January 25, 2021 Posted January 25, 2021 That compartment holds the propane tanks under the back bench. I would have to look back in my records, but i dont believe the previous owner was Steve. Quote
cannante Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 On 2/1/2019 at 5:10 PM, defrag4 said: Best Select Brake Drum - Part # 9353DGS - okay. So I have the pads and rotors for the front that I'm going to replace myself, and someone replace the shoes in the back already, but in replacing the shoes I found out that I'm definitely going to have to replace the drums as well. When I call autozone, they give me a part number 3555 for 298 mm I can't tell if that says 298 mm in there, I can't imagine what else it would say I am told that the part number I quoted above doesn't match and so I'm curious. I have a 1983 sunrader, by the way Quote
linda s Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 You have an 83 Sunrader but your rear axle is not from that year. 3555 is going to get you a 5 lug drum not 6 with the larger center opening. I need to know if your rear wheels are 3 hand holds or 6. Since I don't know what year axle was used that will help me pin point the drums needed. Do you have a picture of these drums? Hard to believe someone would replace the shoes and not replace scored drums Linda S Quote
linda s Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 My local Oreilly's has the drums in stock at my local store. I am surprised but that means any store should be able to get them in a couple of days BrakeBest Select Brake Drum 9353DGS | O'Reilly Auto Parts (oreillyauto.com) Linda S Quote
cannante Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, linda s said: You have an 83 Sunrader but your rear axle is not from that year. 3555 is going to get you a 5 lug drum not 6 with the larger center opening. I need to know if your rear wheels are 3 hand holds or 6. Since I don't know what year axle was used that will help me pin point the drums needed. Do you have a picture of these drums? Hard to believe someone would replace the shoes and not replace scored drums Linda S Okay, I was afraid of that. Very glad I checked Here are some pictures, they weren't changed, because I didn't have the parts and was stuck down in Florida and there was enough drum for me to make it home and just replace the drums here. It had thrown a shoe on the left side and with the new shoes it was driving acceptably Quote
cannante Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 I don't know what three or six hand is it's six lug nuts in the back here's a picture of it with the wheel off if that helps? Quote
linda s Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 Part I posted is the right one. There are cheaper ones on Rock Auto but then you have to wait longer for delivery. Linda S Quote
cannante Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 Alas, there are no O'Reilly Auto parts stores within 50 mi of manhattan, it would seem. But if I take that part number to any Auto parts store, I'm good, right? Also, when you say left handed does that mean that I am turning it right to loosen it? Quote
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