cjac Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Was wonder if this is any good , it's listed on ebay . My rig is not set up for bags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Hard to tell from a picture. They all look pretty much alike but only some models are for the cab and chassis Toyota. No model listed here Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totem Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 i would give it a try , why not. the main thing will be to weld the brackets with a good weld and location; if you do that the rest is gravy; should improve ride height and give leveling abilities that you cant get with springs alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 This picture looks the same so if it's this one that would be the correct model Linda S http://www.ebay.com/itm/Air-Lift-57113-LoadLifter-5000-for-1986-1994-Toyota-Motorhome-Micro-Mini-/141980652746?fits=Year%3A1984|Make%3AToyota|Model%3APickup|Submodel%3ABase|Engine+-+Liter_Display%3A2.4L&hash=item210eb4d4ca:g:qI8AAOxyfDZSZ-XB&vxp=mtr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjac Posted May 23, 2017 Author Share Posted May 23, 2017 Yes Linda that's the one ! I will have to try it and post back . My work has been doing some cutting back because of some new management so my overtime is being cut out for now . I may have to wait on getting them ,have to take care of other things first . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikemike Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 (edited) We got the load lifters last year and really like them. Apparently, they only have two kits for Toyota motor homes. This one #57115 and #88113 which has an internal jounce bumper. We ordered the #88113 and the install was pretty straight forward except for the fact that I had to cut out the u-bolts that secure the leaf springs because the nuts were so seized with rust. My one complaint is concerning the bracket that goes between the bag and the axle. It's the same one for either kit. It really does look like it was engineered for an axle of smaller diameter. It doesn't fit snugly on there like you would expect. I sent pictures to load lifter and their engineers said it looked fine. So, I just clamped it down with my new u- bolts and it just kinda smashed together. A year and several thousand miles later and No problems. Edited July 2, 2017 by Bikemike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjac Posted May 24, 2017 Author Share Posted May 24, 2017 That's good news. Thanks for posting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totem Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 20 hours ago, Bikemike said: We got the load lifters last year and really like them. Apparently, they only have two kits for Toyota motor homes. This one #57115 and #88113 which has an internal jounce bumper. We ordered the #88113 and the install was pretty straight forward except for the fact that I had to cut out the u-bolts that secure the leaf springs because the nuts were so seized with rust. My one complaint is concerning the bracket that goes between the bag and the axle. It's the same one for either kit. It really does look like it was engineered for an axle of larger diameter. It doesn't fit snugly on there like you would expect. I sent pictures to load lifter and their engineers said it looked fine. So, I just clamped it down with my new u- bolts and it just kinda smashed together. A year and several thousand miles later and No problems. The irony here is that the other air bags from firestone/3T also have a jenky bracket in much the same manner. I did the same thing and also no issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunkaman Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 BIKEMIKE &WME--what amount of air pressure do you run, same on each side ? curious as i have air bags and not real sure how to utilize them correctly. now i have 30lbs in each. my manufactures instructions state do not go below 20 lbs. any comments/advice appreciated. joe from dover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 I keep mine at 55 or 60 on my tiny Sunrader. 30 lbs is way low. Not giving much support at all Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjrbus Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 (edited) One of the things air springs are good at is transferring less vibration and such to the frame so a hard bag defeats that. I use a pressure which keeps the unit level from side to side and is just taking the load off the springs and or keeping the unit from sagging. The stronger the leaf springs the less air that is needed. Usually the driver side of mine is a higher PSI than the passenger side. If going off paved roads onto roads that are rough I fill them right up to the max of 90 PSI to keep the rear end up and then deflate when I return to blacktop. So according to Jim there is no correct or one size fits all pressure and takes a bit of experimenting. This is only my opinion and how I do it, not expert or professional advice. Jim After I posted this I did a search, Google is our friend. https://www.airliftcompany.com/workshop/finding-correct-air-pressure/ Edited May 25, 2017 by jjrbus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WME Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 My pressure varies by load. When I head out fully loaded I set the pressure so that the rear is about 1/2" high from level and level side to side. There is no magic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunkaman Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 thanks for the input/info. i will tinker with the air bags before my next trip. joe from dover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanAatTheCape Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 before I reworked my leaf springs, I ran 80-100 to lift my butt. After rework, it does not seem to matter much - usually shoot for about 60. As someone mentioned do not run empty - that will destroy the rubber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunkaman Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 will a small electric air compressor do the job for inflation? i have a small ac compressor i take with me, it is about the same size as one that you can plug into a 12v power outlet. just wondering if what i have will do the job. thanks. joe from dover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunkaman Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 sorry, forgot to ask this question also. when at a campground, can you use the air bags for leveling? thanks again. joe from dover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Anything will do for inflating them, it's just a matter of how quickly it'll happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 I've use a 12 volt air compressor to pump up my air ride for years. I do let us the air springs for leveling and they blow up quickly even with a cheap compressor. First one I got cost me 10 bucks and lasted for years. I now use a Slime air compressor from Oreily's and that one works fine too. Very easy and quick to do. Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikemike Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 I keep my air bags at about 70 psi and use a cigarette lighter compressor. Since we put the bags in there is a lot less crashing and smashing sounds coming from the back. Less nerve racking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunkaman Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 thanks to all. very welcome comments. joe from dover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totem Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 so little volume of air is required to pressure up an airbag that one could easy achieve it with a few cursory pumps of a foot pump. Now the dually tires on the other hand... that's a different story altogether. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob C Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 I use a small cigarette plug compressor also. My springs are shot and I can't find a local shop to re-arc them so I may end up replacing them. My T-9 air bag system makes a huge difference in the quality of ride. I run about 80 psi to correct for the worn out springs and I really like the ride now. We would bottom out the springs on EVERY bump before the air bags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totem Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 agree with bob C and have same situation. flattened springs best fix is replacement of said springs. I'm actually thinking Frankenstein usage of Dodge ram ones from a 2500/3500 will need to check dimensions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjac Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 I think I have a problem. My brake proportioning valve is mounted on the backside of the plate that is close to the air bag . Will this be enough clearence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikemike Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Hmmm, that looks pretty close. My set up is a little different. There is some talk on this site about disenabling the brake proportioning valve once air bags are installed because it will no longer function as it should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjac Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 Do you know how much clearence is needed? Does the air bag expand out ? I can move the proportioning valve over about 1/2 then cut some of the plate to make about 1 inch clearance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikemike Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 17 hours ago, cjac said: Do you know how much clearence is needed? Does the air bag expand out ? I can move the proportioning valve over about 1/2 then cut some of the plate to make about 1 inch clearance Yes, they expand. This is what mine look like when they are blown up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjac Posted June 29, 2017 Author Share Posted June 29, 2017 Wow that gets big. I'm going to have to figure out something to make some clearence for the bag . What air pressure does that have in it? I see that your proportioning valve is mounted to the frame where mine is mounted to a plate that is welded to the frame. I will take a picture and post it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikemike Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 22 hours ago, cjac said: Wow that gets big. I'm going to have to figure out something to make some clearence for the bag . What air pressure does that have in it? I see that your proportioning valve is mounted to the frame where mine is mounted to a plate that is welded to the frame. I will take a picture and post it . The bag has about 70 psi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Can you guys confirm that you're both using the same kits from Firestone or Airlift just in case we're comparing apples and oranges? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikemike Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Derek up North said: Can you guys confirm that you're both using the same kits from Firestone or Airlift just in case we're comparing apples and oranges? Good call. No, not the firestones. Load lifter 5000 (air lift) is what I have pictured. Edited June 30, 2017 by Bikemike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Another of my 'random thoughts' is if there might be a difference in where Toyota mounted the proportioning valve between an '84 1/2 Ton and an '87 1-Ton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Shouldn't be. I come up with the same part numbers for the valve and the bracket that holds it for both years. Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjac Posted June 30, 2017 Author Share Posted June 30, 2017 I have the air lift 5000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 In the first pics it looked like the air bag was almost touching the proportioning valve but in these I can't even see the air bag. Where did it go. Valve looks to be installed the same as all of ours Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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