Gulfstream Greg Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 All right all you torque heads (that's hot rod talk for those who do not know, actually, it would be motor heads) I have the famous rear wheel lug nut torque question that I must ask. I am looking in my 1991 Owner's manual and see some startling figures. Here is the torque specified for "Models with dual rear wheels" 170 ft-lb. 101 ft-lb for single rear wheel lug nuts. I am assuming this is no misprint and 170 ft-lb is correct. My torque wrench only goes up to 150 ft-lb. Opinions Please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maineah Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 The chart I found lists a grade 12.9 14mm bolt torque at 158 foot lbs max. I tighten mine with the tools Toyota provides knowing that one day I maybe the one to take them off in the middle of I95! I just had mine off and had to get my BIG braker bar to get them off,they were put on with air tools. I would recommend doing the rears after a short drive once again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsprandy Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 If that's what it calls for that's what you should use. If the torque is too low the lugs will be subjected to fatigue load cycles and could snap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuzbro Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 If that's what it calls for that's what you should use. If the torque is too low the lugs will be subjected to fatigue load cycles and could snap. I torque mine to 150 then use a breaker bar with socket and add a bit more. It's not rocket science, I just have a feel for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maineah Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 With the Toyota socket and bar you can meet and exceed 150fp and still get them off with the same tool. An impact wrench on a 14mm bolt will quickly deliver 400fp, with a breaker bar you can match that. That is a lot of stress on a 14mm stud. I would not go much beyond 150 and expect to get them off in the boondocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulfstream Greg Posted June 20, 2010 Author Share Posted June 20, 2010 An impact wrench on a 14mm bolt will quickly deliver 400fp, I always assumed that my air impact did not torque the lugs more than 90 pounds. So after impacting them on I put my torque wrench on and found that they were at least 150 pounds and more (wrench only goes to 150). How much more I have no idea. Another question, what about the use of anti seize thread compounds. Good or bad? If good, good where? On the threads and lug mating face or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 Lubricating the threads changes the whole torque value equation. And sparks MANY arguments!!! http://www.google.ca/search?q=torque+values+wet+dry&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maineah Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 Most torque tables assume light oil. I don't think anti seize is necessary what binds them up is the taper in the wheel and nut and excessive torque. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mason Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 So I should torque them to 150 with my torque wrench and then add a little with my breaker bar. I almost had my tires loose when they torque it to 150 and spraid oil on it for easy removal in the tire center. Some of my nuts had only 20 pounds on them after 300 miles of travel. I was lucky to notice them. Thank goodness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 How much do you weigh. I weigh 160 and I use my regular lug wrench and jump on it a little. Never had any loosen up on me ever. Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mason Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Hi Linda, I weigh 190 pounds.I should stand about 10.7 inches away according to my math.I should never spray oil on them again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Hi Linda, I weigh 190 pounds.I should stand about 10.7 inches away according to my math.I should never spray oil on them again. So just use your regular lug wrench and lean into it instead of jump. There's a time to be technically perfect and a time to just tighen the nut. The first time I ever removed a wheel I had to loosen all the nuts by jacking up the wrench with my bottle jack. If I had been out on the road without my jack stands I would have not been able to get them off no matter how hard I jumped. Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mason Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 I have a 150 pound torque wrench. If I torque it to 150 then I can use the breaker bar to turn it just about a quarter of inch then I should be at 170 pound per foot torque. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 That'll depend on how long your breaker bar is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mason Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 I wish that I had a torque wrench that would go to 170 pounds but they are too expensive to buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanAatTheCape Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 I have a toyota manual and it says 125. I put mine on tight & use a cheater bar for about 36" of leverage. I also use anti-sieze on the lugs - so the nuts do not get stuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 What year's the Toyota Manual? New enough to cover the 1-Ton DRW axle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanman Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 My 1991 Toyota owners manual says 170 ft/lbs. To high for me, I have a lifetime working with hand tools on many kinds of machinery so I use the 1/2 inch breaker bar by hand method. With a relieved 6 point socket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVdaytrader Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 After reading these posts I went out and checked my lugs...still tight after 700 mile trip...just use the tool that came with Yoda as I want to be able to remove them out on the road if need be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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