sdboltdude Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I would like to replace my ugly brake/tail/reverse light box with a new led onewould like to keep same size or close so holes are covered upmine are 20"Lx5"Wany one have a good link for a led bar around that size that is a quick install (using existing wires)thanksSteve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdboltdude Posted September 6, 2014 Author Share Posted September 6, 2014 here is some pics getting ready to paint back of RV and would like screw holes covered up if possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Your tail lights are the old Bargman 1400's. Nothing made today is quite so long. Closest is the Bargman 84 series triple long but it's a recessed light and needs a hole. I have never seen the 1400's surface mounted before. If your going to paint anyway filling a few holes isn't a big deal. I'd say your light options are wide open since you've got to make some changes anyway. I'd look for surface mount and pick from there.Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdboltdude Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 yeah it should not be hard to patch the holes and my options are wide open:) Your tail lights are the old Bargman 1400's. Nothing made today is quite so long. Closest is the Bargman 84 series triple long but it's a recessed light and needs a hole. I have never seen the 1400's surface mounted before. If your going to paint anyway filling a few holes isn't a big deal. I'd say your light options are wide open since you've got to make some changes anyway. I'd look for surface mount and pick from there. Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdboltdude Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 these are the ones I'm going with http://www.amazon.com/Lights-Truck-trailer-Caravan-Emergency/dp/B00LCSBAQM/ref=pd_sim_sbs_auto_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=05EXVVH4M11PA4TW9AEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdboltdude Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 I will update pics hopefully back of rv will be painted asap so it will look nice and clean the price is right at $43 for pair should be an easy install They are very nice looking. Can't wait to see a photo of them installed on your rig. I do want to replace my tail lights next year. I have a different opening size but that can be worked around. I have to make a custom base anyway as my 1980 Sunrader does not have a flat surface to mount the lights on. Even the original lights used on it don't fit properly without 3 layers of black butyl tape at the outside edges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Are 'yours' legal without a reflector incorporated? (Unless you plan to add one?) These have a reflector included:- http://www.amazon.com/Indicator-Lights-Trailer-Truck-Caravan/dp/B00LTO2RV6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_auto_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=0M288V31VXG37VVKCF26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdboltdude Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 The ones I have now do not have reflectors in California not sure of laws Are 'yours' legal without a reflector incorporated? (Unless you plan to add one?) These have a reflector included:- http://www.amazon.com/Indicator-Lights-Trailer-Truck-Caravan/dp/B00LTO2RV6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_auto_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=0M288V31VXG37VVKCF26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 If I'm not mistaken, it's a FMVSS/DOT requirement (Federal) to have rear reflectors. http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/title49/section/393.11 http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/motorvehiclesafety/tp-tp14116-menu-175.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Refractors is closer to the meaning but they do call them reflectors. See on the plastic covers of your old ones there is a circular mold in the middle. It's to refract the light coming out of the bulb supposedly to make it easier to see. I don't know if they are required for LCD lights but can't hurt to check first. You know if California can make anything illegal they will. I think it's state law. All things are illegal until you have paid through the nose. Oops, through the nose is always illegal Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I've never heard reflectors called refractors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I've never heard reflectors called refractors. Well they aren't really reflecting the light are they. They are the cover on the tail light so it's just refracting the light coming out of them. I can't imagine him have problems with the lights he chose to tell you the truth. Or are we talking about two different things Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Well, I'm not talking about the lens fluting that diffuses and disperses the light. I'm talking about an actual reflector that will show your vehicle when your lights are off. All vehicles are legally required to have them, even bicycles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maineah Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I didn't see any DOT listing on the lights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayakthecoast Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I replaced mine with these. The top set of lights I drilled circles into diamond plate. The bumper lights I bought a set of already manufactured light boxes and had them powder coated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 If they all have to be reflective then how can anyone sell non-reflective ones and call them tail lights. Aren't they all reflective? Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 No, they aren't all reflective. They can just tell you to buy a separate reflector. I'd rather have reflectors all in one like the ones I posted originally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdboltdude Posted September 14, 2014 Author Share Posted September 14, 2014 I was able to change my order to these just to be safe plus these are flush mount others weren't Are 'yours' legal without a reflector incorporated? (Unless you plan to add one?) These have a reflector included:- http://www.amazon.com/Indicator-Lights-Trailer-Truck-Caravan/dp/B00LTO2RV6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_auto_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=0M288V31VXG37VVKCF26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdboltdude Posted September 14, 2014 Author Share Posted September 14, 2014 good job they look nice!! I replaced mine with these. The top set of lights I drilled circles into diamond plate. The bumper lights I bought a set of already manufactured light boxes and had them powder coated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 If I'm not mistaken, it's a FMVSS/DOT requirement (Federal) to have rear reflectors. http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/title49/section/393.11 http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/motorvehiclesafety/tp-tp14116-menu-175.htm What we appear to have is a legal requirement to have 'reflex reflectors' installed. https://law.resource.org/pub/us/cfr/ibr/005/sae.j594f.1977.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowRader86 Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Hi there. Just got one light in on my 86 Sunrader. I got the Bargman triple LED on a horizontal mount. http://mobile.walmart.com/ip/Bargman-47-84-104-Led-Taillight-No.-84-Recessed-Triple-Long-Horizontal-Mount-Red-Backup-Amber-Black-18-x-7-x-5.-50/35531874 Then got a frame for them cut with specific cut out dimensions Went with black Plexi from Tap Plastics. I called in the dimensions and they had them ready the next day. I'm pretty stoked with the results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snail powered Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Hi there. Just got one light in on my 86 Sunrader. I got the Bargman triple LED on a horizontal mount. http://mobile.walmart.com/ip/Bargman-47-84-104-Led-Taillight-No.-84-Recessed-Triple-Long-Horizontal-Mount-Red-Backup-Amber-Black-18-x-7-x-5.-50/35531874 Then got a frame for them cut with specific cut out dimensions Went with black Plexi from Tap Plastics. I called in the dimensions and they had them ready the next day. I'm pretty stoked with the results. Looks much better than the original white surround. Tap Plastics, great company, we are lucky to have them on the west coast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdfrost64 Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 care to get rid of old lights I need a set Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Yea, DO NOT circle bin the old reflect-o-lites. They are worth their weight in gold as the triples have not been made for the past 15 YEARS and all of the NOS are long gone everywhere. Not sure how I missed this thread........ I did a rebuild on the old reflect-o-lites on my 1981 and used LED bulbs inside of the originals. I had the triple SURFACE mounts which have been out of production for OVER 20 years. Had to cannibalize 2 dual light NOS reflect-o-lites to get mine working again http://www.toymike.com/diesel/pics/Rear_Lights/ On my 1991 Sunrader I kept the stock Bargman triples but rewired everything like I did on the 81 diesel with twin brake/park lights and a center turn. Moved the backup lights to the poo bumper using trailer light housings BEST thing I ever did for rear visibility to others on the road http://www.toymike.com/sunrader/pics/backup_lights/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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