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I grabbed this out from my somewhat random Shakedown drive thread.  (Quick summary of relevant part, I am Looking to upgrade my 1986 Mini Cruiser rear end to the 4.88.). 
 

I am about 1/3rd of the way into getting the rear brakes apart tonight for inspection, and was checking in real quick. 
 

The kit from National Drivetrain for $248 seems to be the right thing and the best price too.  I can work with that and order it tonight or tomorrow.  I might decide to reuse the original bearings if these look like crappy quality.  I only have 32k on mine.  But yeah almost 40yrs old lol.  
 

That is a full kit with setup paint and everything. I just want to verify this pinion and ring kit are what I need, and that it should be decent enough quality. At that price I am mildly concerned about the bearings and seals, but their quality level should be apparent once in my hands.  The rest of the kit is worth having it all on hand at least. 
 

I will be running high end Redline gear fluid, or something of equal quality.   


 

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A reminder🤪 there are 4 seals in a 1 ton rear axle

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Yep!  Thank you for pointing that out.  That kit only shows a single one, obviously the pinion seal.  

 

I have seen some conflicting reports on the necessity of the inner ones though.  Oil bathing the bearings is probably as good, if not better, than grease packing them.  Whatever the case, I will repack pack them so I don't have a dry start and make sure the outers are perfect/new.  And if the inners aren't changed, I will still probably leave them in.   

 

I am going to go take a look at the other parts kits and see if any of them came with the axle seals.  Would possibly explain the price difference.

 

What about the actual ring and pinion set though, is this the 4.88 one I need for the 1 ton???  

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16 minutes ago, thewanderlustking said:

Yep!  Thank you for pointing that out.  That kit only shows a single one, obviously the pinion seal.  

 

I have seen some conflicting reports on the necessity of the inner ones though.  Oil bathing the bearings is probably as good, if not better, than grease packing them.  Whatever the case, I will repack pack them so I don't have a dry start and make sure the outers are perfect/new.  And if the inners aren't changed, I will still probably leave them in.   

 

I am going to go take a look at the other parts kits and see if any of them came with the axle seals.  Would possibly explain the price difference.

 

What about the actual ring and pinion set though, is this the 4.88 one I need for the 1 ton???  

Hey guys, I had put together this parts list for my personal use but figured it might help some of you guys as well. Its mostly for the later model 3VZE toyhomes, though many of the suspension/rear axle stuff will apply to anyone with a 6-lug rear.

Most stuff is from O'Reilleys, Amazon, a few parts direct from Toyota

My truck is a 1992 3VZE V6 - the front brakes should be the same for all 3VZE trucks, the rear brakes should be the same for all 6-lug 1-ton axles no matter the year or engine.
 
3VZE Front Axle Parts
Rotors: BBR 96182RGS - https://amzn.to/2E0utdA
Front Pads: WAG MX303 - https://amzn.to/2BAaUXm
Front Wheel Bearing - Outer - Timken SET3 Bearing Set - https://amzn.to/2KBsOM1
Front Wheel Bearing - Inner - Timken SET5 Bearing Set - https://amzn.to/2ScTh5f
Front Wheel Bearing Seal - Toyota Part Number 90311-50005 / BECK/ARNLEY 0522375 - https://amzn.to/2KEx25S
6-Lug Acorn Wheel Nut - Dorman 611-118 - https://amzn.to/2S9fWPO
Wheel Nut Toyota Part No. - 90942-01055
Front Wheel Stud - Dorman 610-338 - https://amzn.to/2DYYavU
 
1-Ton Rear Axle Parts DRW
BrakeBest Drum Brake Hardware Kit - Part # 17215 - https://amzn.to/2BA9Rq8
BrakeBest Select Brake Drum - Part # 9353DGS - https://amzn.to/2r8i0fG
BrakeBest Select Brake Shoes - Part # 523 - https://amzn.to/2Bzq5QE
Bearing seal - National Oil Seal 226285 - https://amzn.to/2DYL4P1
Inner Axle Lip Seal - National Oil Seal 710076 - https://amzn.to/2r2qlS6
Rear Wheel Cylinder - Dorman W37654 - https://amzn.to/2S9QUAa
Axle Shaft Hub Seal/Paper Gasket - Toyota Part No.: 43422-60040
Rear Wheel Studs - Dorman 610-339 - https://amzn.to/2TKuG9w
Rear wheel stud nut - Toyota Part No.: 94115-71400
Rear Wheel stud washer - Toyota Part No.: 90201-14006
6-Lug Acorn Wheel Nut - Dorman 611-118 - https://amzn.to/2S9fWPO
Wheel Nut Toyota Part No. - 90942-01055
1986 Left Hand Studs - Toyota Part No: 90942-02057
1986 Left Hand Nut -Toyota Part No: 90942-01009
 
 
Rear Leaf Spring Parts -
Lower Spring Eye Bushing
Toyota Part No.: 90385-18046 - https://amzn.to/2zoUTSw
Upper Spring Eye Bushing
Toyota Part No.: 90385-18012
Rear Shocks - Bilstein 24-002585 - https://amzn.to/2P666MW
Front Shocks - Bilstein 24-184830 - https://amzn.to/2KAGS8F
Airbags - AIR LIFT 57113 - https://amzn.to/2FGE2Qz
 
Helpful Tools
Brake Spring Compressor Tool - https://amzn.to/2Sc1uXt
 
Maintenance/Repair Items
Timing Belt/Water Pump Kit - Aisin TKT-016 - https://amzn.to/2t0t0fW
3VZE Fuel Pump - Denso 951-0001- https://amzn.to/2UCfzib
Fuel filter - FRAM G6680 - https://amzn.to/2TqZ2gB
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Thanks WME!  And your teasing me with EVERYTHING I need to know except the Master Cylinder and gear set in that list...  Dumb question but the 1991 V6 Warrior I stole my bits off of would have had the 3VZE in it correct?  I am not up on the Toyota V6 vernaculars yet.  I am going to guess it is, and if so I (should) have the right master in the parts bin.    

 

Trying to hunt down reviews of the gears and not finding any yet specifically for National Driveline, but seeing them mentioned along side of others I keep seeing in this budget realm.  As I suspected most of these seem to be made by the same couple companies.  There are some Amazon reviews, but not glowing.  I don't usually give Amazon reviews as much weight as forum ones though.    

 

WME did you use new, or find a used factory set?    

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Okay I have stared at so much information trying to figure this out, I now can't find a link I had set aside...  And Google isn't giving me what I am looking for.

 

Is the kit above from National Drivetrain the correct one for our odd little machines?  

 

From what I can tell our dually axles use the 4cyl housing.  But it doesn't look identical to the reference pictures on the LCE website.  Not sure that matters as the kit above doesn't identify 4cly vs 6cly anyways...    

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12 hours ago, thewanderlustking said:

WME did you use new, or find a used factory set?    

I ran factory 4.1. I never used OD. I pulled a 5x8 cargo trailer through the Rockies for years. With 4.88 gears it still wouldn't have pulled the trailer in OD and with out OD the engine would be screaming.

With out the trailer I would have had 4.88 in an instant. I had a used unit picked out for $250, then the job changed and the trailer showed up. The Toy went from a camper to a portable sales office

 

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I think the 6 cylinder diff was the same as the 4 cylinder, EXCEPT for that it was a 4 pinion instead of a 2 pinion

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Random thoughts…  No good place to put them and not worth a new thread lol. So I will stick this here. 
 

Toyota has some really interesting parts the deeper down the rabbit hole I go. 
 

First off is their e-locker diff. I am definitely going to keep an eye out for one and seriously consider snagging it if one crosses my path at the right price. Probably not super useful on our 2wd rigs. But I can definitely see one getting me out of a couple potential bad situations. And it would sure be fun and pretty easy to install!  Now dumping silly money on an air locker, nope. But the e-locker is pretty cool!  
 

Second, transmission. I posted a “is there a better option” thread on this and it was quickly shot down…. But for the right gear- head, I think there actually is a better option.  Both the V6 and 22RE-T came with transmissions that had electric locking converters. I haven’t really gone down that rabbit hole to see if that would gain anything, but installing and controlling it via a MegaSquirt, should be easily doable.  It wouldn’t likely be worth the effort to swap in and wire up the Toyota harness and make it work with the current 22RE engine. 
 

Anyways as I said, random.  Super cool bits of technology, but simple enough that the right person could retrofit them. 
 

BTW for any serious consideration to be given to these potential projects, I would need to have at least a season or two in actually using my beast to bother. These are  everything else is done and I’m bored kinda projects. 

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