tstockma Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 (edited) Well crazy - I see 2 main shapes for this year & engine in the parts stores, one clearly doesn't work right & the other is close but not terrific. The close one is C70988, but it interferes just a bit with the EFI intake cross-tube from the air filter, and the ends are not quite parallel to each other - my radiator & engine tubes are - while I could force it on, the hose ends are under added stress, it's not as close a fit as I want. Anyone have a better fit part number? Rock Auto mostly has the 2 shapes I'm familiar with - one additional Gates number whose picture might be closer to a good fit, but mail order "testing" is not what I want. 1986 22RE engine, automatic, 2-wheel drive, 2.4 liter EFI. I think this is the most common application, probably standard truck, a bit short & not the right shape: This is the C70988 ( & other "80988" flavors), close but not quite right, it doesn't have parallel ends & interferes with air intake cross-link to the EFI: This is the Gates 21398, which I wonder if it might be a close fit, despite not having parallel ends: Side question - I have an all-metal radiator but run hot enough that I'd like something better if possible. How can I determine whether mine is 2-tube or 3-tube? Thanks for all help! Tom Edited September 4, 2020 by tstockma clarity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tstockma Posted September 5, 2020 Author Share Posted September 5, 2020 Couple more pictures to better describe the problem....my existing hose is correctly curved, but it's not just a simple curve, it's complex so as to bend down, out of the way of the intake cross-link. The above shot especially shows it curving down & out of the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Flexible? https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/b/vulco-flex-ii-3740/belts-hoses-16454/hoses-25069/radiator-hoses-25108/radiator-hose-11341/15ec5eb8149c/gates-vulco-flex-ii-epdm-rubber-steel-coolant-hose/25252/4347663/1986/toyota/pickup?q=radiator+hose&pos=6#applications Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tstockma Posted September 5, 2020 Author Share Posted September 5, 2020 Maybe! I have an old prejudice against these as being weaker than molded, but that's probably just old thinking. I'm saving that link & might end up going with it. Strange, the current upper hose is a lot newer than the rest of the hoses were, and it's molded & the right fit... At some point parts places must have known what the right hose is. Thanks Linda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Maybe Toyota is still making them correctly https://www.toyotapartsdeal.com/oem/toyota~hose~radiator~inlet~16571-35080.html?vin=&make=Toyota&model=Pickup&year=1986&submodel=&extra1=&extra2=&filter=(1=22REC;3=T1;4=STD;5=ATM;6=4HC;7=RCB;9=HVY;10=WT;12=EFI;13=IV;0=RN55L-SRTEA3W)&location=engine_fuel_tool/radiator_water_outlet,,16571 Any dealership should be able to get you one and at least it's something you could inspect in person before you buy Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToyoGuy Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 For what it's worth, I have been driving 22R and 22REs for about 25 years now, both daily driver PU's and my RV, and I have learned to spend the extra dough and buy genuine Toyota upper hoses. They just fit and work better for me. I do buy lower aftermarkets without problem. As stated, the after market uppers never quite fit right, for me. Tried Gates etc. They all seem less thick and I have repeatedly had them lose a little coolant at a time, over time. Not what I want on a trip over the Sierras in 80--90 degrees, at 3200 rpms, for prolonged periods. For me this is a "Buy the best and only cry once" issue. I also now buy new clamps and retire the used ones for emergency or other misc uses. Just my 2 cents. BR, TG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tstockma Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 (edited) Interesting - I did stop by the Toyota dealer on Saturday - Linda, they said the 35180 is original but, with 35181 as the replacement. TG, you finding Toyota's hoses better for the upper, is also noteworthy - my local dealer said $77 before tax to special order it - yikes! Hey Linda your link says $30 for the original 35180. SOLD! Edited September 8, 2020 by tstockma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 So, there is no 35181. The part number I posted is already the replacement for 35080. Toyota list price for this item is really 42 bucks but he tried to charge almost twice that? If it was me I would call and ask to speak to the manager. Your working with a Toyota group with over 5000 members and their reputation is on the line. Maybe get them to shape up so the next guy doesn't get ripped off Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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