cjac Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Does anyone have a idea to replace this without taking off the outside aluminum? This wood was half rotted and my bunk floor screws to it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neubie Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 A metal reinforcement bracket or brackets, screwed into remaining good wood. Remove rot, replace with a solution twice the old strength if removing metal brackets. Or you could just change over to metal and leave it at that. You just need a good scaffold to keep the structure secure, otherwise its just wood screws and staples. Can be cut away piecewise or removed whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjac Posted November 4, 2017 Author Share Posted November 4, 2017 Ok thanks. What brackets would be best to use? I seen some bracket at home depot but they where for 2x4s . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjac Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 Going to do it the right way and just replace with some new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjac Posted November 23, 2017 Author Share Posted November 23, 2017 Old wood is out . Time to install the new . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Got your giant stapler so you can do it as poorly as the factory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjac Posted November 23, 2017 Author Share Posted November 23, 2017 Naw. Have some metal brackets and screws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjac Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 Would a corrugated fastener work better than plates and screws ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maineah Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 They are very hard to drive in and have a tendency to drive things apart rather than pull them together. Have a look at Kreg tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WME Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 The Kreg jig tool will make a strong joint. Pre glue the joints with TiteBond II and then jig them together. The joint will be stronger than the wood itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neubie Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 5 hours ago, Maineah said: They are very hard to drive in and have a tendency to drive things apart rather than pull them together. Have a look at Kreg tools. This is very true. All the particle board in toys is held with these fastners (cupboard elements mostly). Thats all they are good for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maineah Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 9 hours ago, neubie said: This is very true. All the particle board in toys is held with these fastners (cupboard elements mostly). Thats all they are good for. Generally they use staples for a reason when a staple is driven with a gun they do not just go straight in they bend a twist following the grain or striking a knot that's why they are so hard to get out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjrbus Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 15 hours ago, cjac said: Would a corrugated fastener work better than plates and screws ? I like corrugated fasteners for some things, but rarely use them anymore. The downside to them is they have to be driven on a very solid surface, such as concrete. Which is not possible when trying to reassemble framework. My tools of choice would be wood glue, pneumatic stapler and Craig jig. At the moment I cannot see using a lot of metal fasteners for this, but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do to get it done. If you put a joint together with metal fasteners it can be ripped apart, a couple screws and wood glue and the wood will likely break before the joint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjac Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 Just bought the kreg jig and some screws at Home Depot for 44 bucks. Going to do some practice drilling on some scrap wood first. Thanks for the info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjac Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 That was easy ! Nice and strong just with one screw . So with that and some wood glue a definite strong hold . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctgriffi Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 4 hours ago, cjac said: That was easy ! Nice and strong just with one screw . So with that and some wood glue a definite strong hold . Terrific tool for any/all woodworking. You just can't imagine all the places where that thing will come in very handy, until you have one... just make sure to adjust the jig (and the screw length) correctly for different material widths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjrbus Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 For a long time I thought the Kreg was just a toy for the talent-less. I have use mine alot now and like it. Now you will have to look around for screws, they can get pricey. Impact tools sells screws on Amazon for a decent price and they have high ratings. If you are using all softwood, you want the coarse thread screws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0000DD5H1/ref=dp_olp_0?ie=UTF8&condition=all&qid=1490976984&sr=8-3 Maybe over the long Winter nights, I'll have a go at making my own. http://woodshopmike.com/diy-pocket-hole-jig/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Or maybe just keep doing it the old fashioned way! Or if you have access to (or need an excuse to buy) a 3D printer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maineah Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Looks like copyright infringement! Actually for what they are they are pretty cheap for the starter kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 IF I was building fine cabinets I might spring for the 'real deal'. But for replacing the original 'sticks and staples'? I think deck screws and glue will be an improvement and just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neubie Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 9 hours ago, Derek up North said: IF I was building fine cabinets I might spring for the 'real deal'. But for replacing the original 'sticks and staples'? I think deck screws and glue will be an improvement and just fine. I ended up with pretty much deck screws and glue in some places in my "fine cabinets", well the wall between bathroom and the cupboard really, nothing structural, but do hope they work better than the 1/8th ply and nails solution from manufacturer. At least its beefy sticks, 1/4ply and plenty of glue and patch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjrbus Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 11 hours ago, Derek up North said: IF I was building fine cabinets I might spring for the 'real deal'. But for replacing the original 'sticks and staples'? I think deck screws and glue will be an improvement and just fine. Hmmm, priced deck screws lately? Just bought a small box and it was sticker shock! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 ~$5/lb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjrbus Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) Edited November 30, 2017 by jjrbus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Standard issue this side of the border are Robertson heads. https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.8x2-12-cedar-deck-screws---100-pieces.1000110863.html?autoSuggest=pip I buy mind from a 'bulk' reseller at my local Flea Market. $5 for as many as he can grab with a (gloved) hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjac Posted November 30, 2017 Author Share Posted November 30, 2017 Finally figured this out. Well my wife did. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjrbus Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 9 hours ago, Derek up North said: Standard issue this side of the border are Robertson heads. https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.8x2-12-cedar-deck-screws---100-pieces.1000110863.html?autoSuggest=pip I buy mind from a 'bulk' reseller at my local Flea Market. $5 for as many as he can grab with a (gloved) hand. The pocket hole type screws are self drilling and flat to stop in bottom of hole to minimize splitting and I am guessing they are cheaper than deck screws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg4toi Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) Besides the factory staples being a down and dirty cheap/fast way of building, another cheap out from the factory is the crap wood used for the framework. I replaced all the frame over the cab, left side and rear due to Termites!!! using northern white cedar. Did I mention the floor? Anyway, cedar doesn't rot and it's light. We glued and screwed the frames to the fiberglass skin, screwing from the outside, then removed the screws and filled the holes with epoxy. Used West epoxy to start while I could buy it wholesale from work and now use Basic No-Blush Epoxy from Progressive Epoxy on the web. They sell a winter epoxy that kicks down to 30 degrees Fahrenheit. The wood I get from a local guy who has a kiln and buys it green, drys it, chops it up and sells it to decoy carvers on the net. I get 2 x 8s or 3 Xs eight feet long and table saw them to what ever size we need. Another "glue" is liquid nails that we used to glue the door skin ply onto the Styrofoam. Extreme Liquid Nails works down to 22 degrees Fahrenheit. BTW, a polite Toyota owner told me Dolphins have wood frames but I didn't catch his meaning, having the "fever" real bad. Edited December 4, 2017 by kg4toi Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjac Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share Posted December 6, 2017 After a weekend trip to Nashville and all day rain on Tuesday back to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjac Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share Posted December 6, 2017 Have the walls braced . Time to remove the bunk floor. Need to clean it off first. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjac Posted December 8, 2017 Author Share Posted December 8, 2017 Starting to work on the bunk floor . Didn't do anything yesterday . Blood pressure was to high , all day at the doctors office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjac Posted April 13, 2018 Author Share Posted April 13, 2018 Since my last post my rig has been under the cover and no work has been done . On my off days it' been to cold or raining . Now it's tornado season with thunder storms and I have a 4 week shutdown at work at the end of this month . Ugh ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totem Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 time to find a storage locker that has high ceilings with power and rent it for a month.. then drive in and fire up the electric heaters and go to town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjac Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 Still no progress on the motorhome. Been working to much . I'm fired ! I do check under the cover to make sure there are no resident's and so far I've been lucky. At this point I'm not happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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