sunrader2000 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 (edited) I have the 84 Toyota Sunrader 4x4 and need a wheel. I need the faux dually driver's side rear wheel,15 inch, 6X5.5, shipped to North Bend Washington. Anyone? Edited June 26, 2011 by sunrader2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bufbooth Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Not sure if this will work, but check out this ebay ad: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TOYOTA-TRUCK-4-RUNNER-STEEL-RIM-15X7-6-5-5-6-5-5-EY-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4cf5f0f10aQQitemZ330543722762QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Try www.car-part.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrader2000 Posted June 23, 2011 Author Share Posted June 23, 2011 We haven't been able to find one. We're looking at replacing the back wheels with a Rear Dual Wheel Adapter kit. Anyone done this? It's expensive and this vehicle has a lot of miles on it, but, it IS the Sunrader, quite rare (4x4), and, honestly, the family pet. We dearly love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I'm no expert, but I think most of the 4x4s are running with single 15" or 16" rear wheels. So, unless you're really set on the duallie look ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Toyota Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 if your in north bend washington have you talk to les schab i also have astock 1988 4wd pu stock tiresL t235 15 six hole rims mabe somthing in white spoke the 4wd are built a lot heavyor than the 14 inch 2wd i recently had 1000 400 pounds of scrap steel on my 4wd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrader2000 Posted June 24, 2011 Author Share Posted June 24, 2011 (edited) if your in north bend washington have you talk to les schab i also have astock 1988 4wd pu stock tiresL t235 15 six hole rims mabe somthing in white spoke the 4wd are built a lot heavyor than the 14 inch 2wd i recently had 1000 400 pounds of scrap steel on my 4wd The vehicle is at the Les Schwab and he can't find a wheel replacement. We are leaning toward moving to 16 singles. Anyone have a recommendation for a tire if we do that? One wide enough to ensure stability? We are planning to replace all 4 (front, too) with 16 inch at this stage. I still really really want to just replace the one faux dually thingy but that is looking unlikely now. If anyone knows of one...? Edited June 24, 2011 by sunrader2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrader2000 Posted June 25, 2011 Author Share Posted June 25, 2011 (edited) The vehicle is at the Les Schwab and he can't find a wheel replacement. We are leaning toward moving to 16 singles. Anyone have a recommendation for a tire if we do that? One wide enough to ensure stability? We are planning to replace all 4 (front, too) with 16 inch at this stage. I still really really want to just replace the one faux dually thingy but that is looking unlikely now. If anyone knows of one...? Can anyone tell me if this looks like the right wheel? The faux dually? I'm sending the pic to the tire guy, but I really have no idea and since I'm not near the vehicle, I thought I'd ask you guys. Edited June 25, 2011 by sunrader2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 From my limited experience those look like 'true' dually wheels. The black one is from 1986(?) with the 6 hand holes. the silver one (with 3 hand holes) is later ('87-'94). Not what you're looking for, IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrader2000 Posted June 25, 2011 Author Share Posted June 25, 2011 (edited) From my limited experience those look like 'true' dually wheels. The black one is from 1986(?) with the 6 hand holes. the silver one (with 3 hand holes) is later ('87-'94). Not what you're looking for, IMHO. Thank you, Mr. Up North. If I go with the 16 inch single, do you have a tire recommendation? Edited June 25, 2011 by sunrader2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Not really, other than try not to go too wild with the tire diameter unless you want to start playing with diff ratios as well! Probably the smallest 16" Load Range E you can find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrader2000 Posted June 25, 2011 Author Share Posted June 25, 2011 The repair guy is recommending LTR245/75R-16/10 Pegasus Advanta CLT All Seasons Blackwall for all 4 new wheels. Opinions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Never heard of them and I'm not an off-roader. But they're BIG!! About 15% larger rolling radius than the typical Toyota 185R14 tire. And people already say that O/D is unusable! Better start looking into swapping final drive ratios as well. More $$$$$. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrader2000 Posted June 25, 2011 Author Share Posted June 25, 2011 (edited) Never heard of them and I'm not an off-roader. But they're BIG!! About 15% larger rolling radius than the typical Toyota 185R14 tire. And people already say that O/D is unusable! Better start looking into swapping final drive ratios as well. More $$. Hm. My vehicle has 15 inch now on a 4 wheel drive and, elsewhere, someone recommended 16 inch if moving from the faux dually to the single. Edited June 25, 2011 by sunrader2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WME Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 What size tire is on your Raider now??? Do you have any idea what the rear axle weight is on your rig?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrader2000 Posted June 25, 2011 Author Share Posted June 25, 2011 What size tire is on your Raider now??? Do you have any idea what the rear axle weight is on your rig?? 15 inches all 6 wheels. No, I don't know the rear axle weight. It's the 1984 4wd Toyota Sunrader. The holes around the studs are sheered into oblongs because the lug nuts came loose. No, I don't know how it happened. Two nuts were gone and at least one the studs sheered off by the time I felt it, heard the noise, and stopped. It was towed to a Les Schwab and we are looking for either a replacement wheel for the faux dually or another solution. Rear dual wheel adapters was suggested but pricey. I am leaning toward going with single 16 inch wheels all around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunnynshare Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 The holes around the studs are sheered into oblongs because the lug nuts came loose. No, I don't know how it happened. Two nuts were gone and at least one the studs sheered off by the time I felt it, heard the noise, and stopped. Why not take the wheel to a local machine shop, have them weld up the oblongs, and re-drill? It's an easy fix. Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrader2000 Posted June 25, 2011 Author Share Posted June 25, 2011 Why not take the wheel to a local machine shop, have them weld up the oblongs, and re-drill? It's an easy fix. Kim According to Les Schwab it is not easy. Rebuilding or re-machining was the manager's first plan, but his trusted wheel builder won't do it, saying he's never done a wheel like this before and wouldn't trust it. Do you know anyone with experience in the Seattle area who might feel differently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunnynshare Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 According to Les Schwab it is not easy. Rebuilding or re-machining was the manager's first plan, but his trusted wheel builder won't do it, saying he's never done a wheel like this before and wouldn't trust it. Do you know anyone with experience in the Seattle area who might feel differently? At least I suggest having a good machine shop give its opinion. I would trust them as much as or really even more than an automobile machine shop or a wheel builder. They generally know metals and welding -- but I can appreciate your nervousness. There are a bunch around Seattle. Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 A Sunrader 4x4 owner weighed his. 1985 Sunrader 4x4 (not 1-Ton, but Front Range Off Road Full floating rear axles and single tires) Front axle weight= 1900 lbs Rear axle weight= 3460 lbs all wheels on scale=5360 lbs "... not loaded to go camping, just the stuff we always leave in them. Water and waste tanks empty and gas tanks full. Just one person on board at 180Lbs." He had previously reported a total weight of near 6000lbs, loaded for camping and with a passenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrader2000 Posted June 25, 2011 Author Share Posted June 25, 2011 At least I suggest having a good machine shop give its opinion. I would trust them as much as or really even more than an automobile machine shop or a wheel builder. They generally know metals and welding -- but I can appreciate your nervousness. There are a bunch around Seattle. Kim This is really hard because I'm not even there and no one really knows this vehicle. I trust the Les Schwab guy to be honest as far as he knows. He's really been quite good, but... I'm just going in circles now. From building a wheel, to rear dual adapter, to single 16 inch all around, back to wheel building or machining. ARGH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunnynshare Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 This is really hard because I'm not even there and no one really knows this vehicle. I trust the Les Schwab guy to be honest as far as he knows. He's really been quite good, but... I'm just going in circles now. From building a wheel, to rear dual adapter, to single 16 inch all around, back to wheel building or machining. I hear your frustration. Another idea then. You might google the wheel part number to see if any junk yards have it. Or call a junk yard up and have them search their databases. Or search through pictures here and on the other Toy rv sites, find one that has the right wheel and contact them to borrow it for a while. I have an 88 and don't know if it will fit. If it will, I will pop it off and ship it to you so long as I get it returned in a few weeks. I am in the bay area by San Francisco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrader2000 Posted June 26, 2011 Author Share Posted June 26, 2011 I hear your frustration. Another idea then. You might google the wheel part number to see if any junk yards have it. Or call a junk yard up and have them search their databases. Or search through pictures here and on the other Toy rv sites, find one that has the right wheel and contact them to borrow it for a while. I have an 88 and don't know if it will fit. If it will, I will pop it off and ship it to you so long as I get it returned in a few weeks. I am in the bay area by San Francisco. Wow, Sunny, that is so sweet of you. I may have to take you up on that if I don't find something soon. Can I offer you something... a kidney or a lung maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 How about a picture of your current wheel setup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WME Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 OK its got 15" rims, but what size is the tire?? This will effect your choice in 16" tires. You want to get the rolling dia as close as possible to your current tire. This will make the speedo happy. PS there is also a common size LT225/75/16 E range. Its a bunch smaller in dia the the 245 the tire shop is talking about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrader2000 Posted June 26, 2011 Author Share Posted June 26, 2011 Taking a pic would have been a great idea but I didn't think of it during the breakdown. I'm 5-6 hours away now. I'm not sure what tires are on it, but I do know that before we started talking about 16 inch wheels, we were getting LT235/75R - 15/6 so that's probably comparable to what's on it now. I'll mention all these concerns to the mechanic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Here's an idea to get you on the road again and give a bit of time to ponder a permanent solution. Get 2 standard single rims for a 4x4 pickup and install a set of these:- http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Wrangler+AT%2FS&partnum=375QR5WRATS&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes Load Range D (2335 lbs.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrader2000 Posted June 26, 2011 Author Share Posted June 26, 2011 Here's an idea to get you on the road again and give a bit of time to ponder a permanent solution. Get 2 standard single rims for a 4x4 pickup and install a set of these:- http://www.tirerack....romCompare1=yes Load Range D (2335 lbs.) Could you elaborate on this? How would the 2 standard single rims work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrader2000 Posted June 26, 2011 Author Share Posted June 26, 2011 At least I suggest having a good machine shop give its opinion. I would trust them as much as or really even more than an automobile machine shop or a wheel builder. They generally know metals and welding -- but I can appreciate your nervousness. There are a bunch around Seattle. Kim I'm all for this. Can you recommend one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Toyota Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 ijust checked my 1988 4wd pu i have wild country Lt 235 75 r 15 inch that is stock tires my moter home is 14 inch the 2w drive trucks are 14 inch i am sorry i dont know much about the dulley rims on the 4wd are the inside rims different than the outside rims i shure hope you get it fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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