ndelorimier Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Hi guys ! Looking for some advice about winter tires ... I'm in Canada (QC) and for those who don't know winter tires are mandatory from the decembre 15 to march 15.. So I'm looking to get real winter tires ( not just 4 seasons ) to go for extended ski trip in the provinces ... So far I'm out of luck to find an the exact 195/75r14 winter tire ... closest to what I've found is this : https://pmctire.com/en/sailun-ice-blazer-wst1-185r14c-102-100q-c-6.tire Can someone tell me if I'm going straight to my death with these or if any of my fellow Canadian's have found tires to run there toy during winter ... Thanks a lot N.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Good find. Have you actually spoken with PMC to see if they have then in stock? I've spoken to them quite recently about non-Winter tires and the didn't have available what showed on their website. Vous etes ou au juste? P.S. Those tires will work perfectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 http://www.sailuntire.ca/PLT/WST1.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 They also appear on the Sailun USA page. Waaaaay down at the bottom of the list. http://www.gosailun.com/PLT/Tire/WST1 I just sent an email to Sailun USA to ask how to find a dealer in the US. The Canadian website has a Dealer Locator, the US site doesn't. https://simpletire.com lists Sailun tires but no results after a search for 185R14 and no sign of the WST1. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Comparison test, though a different model vs Hankook. http://www.wheels.ca/car-reviews/review-sailun-ice-blazer-wsl2/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Toyota Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 thanks for the info a new tire to me never heard of it looks good . mandatory in wash st for mtn pass driving . I got a brand new set of hankook W4o9 studded on my dodge sedan. but I got them from my dauter after a women hit her and totaled her car . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 17 hours ago, ndelorimier said: ... winter tires are mandatory from the decembre 15 to march 15. With exceptions, including MOTORHOMES. Winter tires requirement: a few exceptions The winter tires requirement does not apply: for the first 7 days following the purchase of a passenger vehicle from a dealer for the last 7 days before the end of a lease of 12 months or more to passenger vehicles with dealer plates (X plates) to passenger vehicles with a temporary registration certificate (transit), for a period of up to 7 days after the certificate was issued to MOTORHOMES to the spare tire of a passenger vehicle or taxi to motorcycles used as emergency vehicles to vehicles for which a winter tire exemption certificate has been issued Source:- https://saaq.gouv.qc.ca/en/road-safety/behaviours/adapting-your-driving/winter-driving/ EDIT. BTW, before you ask, I have NO idea what "motorcycles used as emergency vehicles" could possibly mean! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndelorimier Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 Hey ! Thanks for the reply ! PMCtires seem to have them in inventory since they allow me to add them to the shopping cart... Usually if they don't have them it's just written ''out of stock'' ... Well I guess... As for the SAAQ I was about to call them to clarify that for me ... it is written ''a motor vehicle permanently converted into living quarter'' which is ambiguous a bit ... what do they intent by saying PERMANENTLY ... I'll post their answer when i'll have it. Et Derek ! Je suis dans les laurentides tout près de Saint-Jérôme.. Je suis en train de retaper un keystone de 21' avec un 22r qui a manqué d'amour pendant plusieurs années Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 1 hour ago, ndelorimier said: Hey ! Thanks for the reply! PMCtires seem to have them in inventory since they allow me to add them to the shopping cart... Usually if they don't have them it's just written ''out of stock'' ... Well I guess... As for the SAAQ I was about to call them to clarify that for me ... it is written ''a motor vehicle permanently converted into living quarter'' which is ambiguous a bit ... what do they intent by saying PERMANENTLY ... I'll post their answer when i'll have it. Et Derek ! Je suis dans les laurentides tout près de Saint-Jérôme.. Je suis en train de retaper un keystone de 21' avec un 22r qui a manqué d'amour pendant plusieurs années I feel safe to assume that ours are 'permanent'. We've got fixed beds, plumbing and cooking equipment installed. To me, non-permanent would be a slide-in camper or a minivan with a mattress and sleeping bag in the back. But the way our Government works, best to check. I've been emailing this morning with Sailun and they say they have the WLT1 in stock in Toronto (Vaughan) so you should be able to buy them locally. You might (or not) find it difficult finding someone with the right equipment to mount and balance our unusual rims. http://www.sailuntire.ca/PLT/dealer-locator.html An aside, do you have a true Full Floating rear axle? I've noticed that quite a few in Canada don't. What year Keystone? A 22R suggests early '80s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I went this afternoon to my local Sailun Dealer and got a price of $103/tire, installed and balanced. Next I went to my little garage/mechanic who also sell quite a few Sailun. He gave me a price of $318 for 4, installed and balanced. Hard to beat that, especially at Canadian prices!! Let me know if you want more details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Caution: Rant to follow. I emailed PMC Tire where we first heard about the Sailuns. Here's their reply:- Bonjour Derek, Il manquerait un chiffre entre le 185 et le R14... 185-65-14 peut-être? Translated, basically, it's saying I'm missing the 'middle' number and proposes that I perhaps mean 185/65R14. WTF is the matter with these people?? From an acne spotted, minimum wage, shelf stocking tire monkey at Pep Boy, I can understand, but from someone answering customer inquiries at a supposed tire 'specialist' I'd expect them to have more of a clue!!!! I refrained from any sarcastic reply, instead simply said, no, I want 185R14 tires and included a link to their own web page!! We'll see if he can figure it out from that!! Rant finished. Thanks for listening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Ya know I recommended the Sailun tire to a member a couple of years ago but it wasn't a winter tire. He bought them in Nova Scotia and said they were great. I will try to find the thread Linda S These tires. Apparently I didn't recommend them I found a shop that had supposedly Nexen's but this is what they could come up with. Don't know if they are still made seven185R14C 102/100Q 8P TL SL-12 SAILUN's No hits on this tire online that were legitimate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndelorimier Posted January 1, 2017 Author Share Posted January 1, 2017 Sooooooo... Little follow up on this topic ! Haven't bought the tires yet but I called regarding the mandatory winter tires ! To be part of the MOTORHOME exception you need to register your rig as a motorhome when you register it at SAAQ ... There is something to do with the weight of the toy and the fact that there is a fixed bed that makes it automatically considered like a "motorhome" for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 So I don't know if anyone brought up these tires yet but I found some in London Ontario. They are winter tires and they are studdable Linda S http://www.arrowauto.ca/Hercules-HSI-S-Tire-detail.htm?productid=18213312 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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