zero Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 This one has an interesting rear-end. Looks like a full-floater but not like anything I've seen in the USA. I've love to see a parts breakdown of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 And a bunk with a pop-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 A different take from a different Continent:- http://www.motorhomerentals.com/rv_hire/britz/vehicle_informations/trax_4wd.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85Diesel Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Do you have the full link to that truck? It looks like they swapped in the newer 3.0L 1KZ-T engine. I think that full floater might be a half-ton axle converted to a 1 ton with an aftermarket kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero Posted June 13, 2014 Author Share Posted June 13, 2014 Do you have the full link to that truck? It looks like they swapped in the newer 3.0L 1KZ-T engine. I think that full floater might be a half-ton axle converted to a 1 ton with an aftermarket kit. Not like any full-floater kit I've seen. The kits I've seen use the front hubs off a 4WD and stick them on the back. The result is protruding axle hubs similar to the FF rears more common in Toyota 1 ton duallies. The one in the Australian rig has a bearing cap but not protruding. I've seen that setup in photos of other "over-seas" trucks but do not know its origin. As to the engine? I don't have any good views of it other then what I posted. The 3L diesel was available OEM in 1988 Hilux trucks so I'm assuming that's what it is. Can't say I ever saw one up close. I'll have to search around for that link. If I find it again - I'll post the URL. I think the 3L engine was around since the late 70s and 1988 was the last year they were made. The 3L is a 2.8 L (2,779 cc) 4-cylinder diesel engine. Bore is 96 mm and stroke is 96 mm, with a compression ratio of 22.2 : 1. Output is 91 hp (68 kW) at 4,000 rpm with 19.2 kg·m (188 N·m) of torque at 2,400 rpm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85Diesel Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 I still think it's a half ton axle converted to a full floater. You can't see the protrusion because they used a spacer to adapt the half ton axle to the 5 lug dually rims. They just used a bearing cap instead of the manual 4wd freewheel hubs. That's definitely a 1KZ-T or TE and not a 3L. I can tell by the timing belt cover. It's the same engine I have in my truck. The 3L wasn't available until the late 80's as far as I know. Before that it was the 2L or 2L-T. The 1KZ came about in the mid-90's. HP was 125-130. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero Posted June 14, 2014 Author Share Posted June 14, 2014 I still think it's a half ton axle converted to a full floater. You can't see the protrusion because they used a spacer to adapt the half ton axle to the 5 lug dually rims. They just used a bearing cap instead of the manual 4wd freewheel hubs. That's definitely a 1KZ-T or TE and not a 3L. I can tell by the timing belt cover. It's the same engine I have in my truck. The 3L wasn't available until the late 80's as far as I know. Before that it was the 2L or 2L-T. The 1KZ came about in the mid-90's. HP was 125-130. 3L came out in 1977. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero Posted June 14, 2014 Author Share Posted June 14, 2014 I still think it's a half ton axle converted to a full floater. You can't see the protrusion because they used a spacer to adapt the half ton axle to the 5 lug dually rims. They just used a bearing cap instead of the manual 4wd freewheel hubs. I don't know what the axle is - but all even the 1 ton dually full-floaters like used in the Toyota RVs here in the US are what you could call "converted" 1/2 ton axles. Same center-section and axle-tubes. Just have added bearing-extensions at the ends. And yes - I know the tubes on a FF are bigger OD then the older 1/2 ton trucks - but later 2WDs also got the bigger tubes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero Posted June 14, 2014 Author Share Posted June 14, 2014 I still think it's a half ton axle converted to a full floater. Looks like you are correct. This conversion photo looks similar other then the disc setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 3L came out in 1977. The L series engine came out in 77 but the 3L wasn't available until the late 80's. They start showing up in Australia on 1988 and later Hilux and Surf Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero Posted June 14, 2014 Author Share Posted June 14, 2014 The L series engine came out in 77 but the 3L wasn't available until the late 80's. They start showing up in Australia on 1988 and later Hilux and Surf Linda S You may be 100% correct. I've never seen one in real life from any year. I saw one source that claimed 3Ls were make 1977-1988, and another that says 1991-1997. I have no first-hand knowledge with them. Wish I did. Look a little better then the enemic diesels they marketed in the USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 I'm seeing reliable evidence that the 3L goes back at least as far as Aug 1988. That's the date of RM123E (2nd Edition). http://www.toyota4wd.dk/Teknik/J70/Toyota%20Motor%20Manual%202Lt.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85Diesel Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 I did one gas to diesel swap using a 3L, I put it into an 87 4wd pickup. It's definitely newer tech than the 1L or early 2L-T's that were available in North America, mainly different in the cylinder head design. Can't really speak to its power potential though, as its only used as a farm truck and barely ever comes out of 1st or reverse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero Posted June 15, 2014 Author Share Posted June 15, 2014 I did one gas to diesel swap using a 3L, I put it into an 87 4wd pickup. It's definitely newer tech than the 1L or early 2L-T's that were available in North America, mainly different in the cylinder head design. Can't really speak to its power potential though, as its only used as a farm truck and barely ever comes out of 1st or reverse. No diesel is going to have the power of a gas engine if bore, stroke, and aspiration is the same. The fuel cost savings was the nice advantage until diesel cost got way higher then gas. I still have around 20 old diesels here but I'm slowly going back to gasoline. But . . . the Federal government is now talking about making low-sulfur gasoline - like they did with diesel. If so - maybe gas prices will be right back up with diesel and I'll feel better (or worse). I still have - a 1985 Isuzu 4WD 2.2 diesel mini-pickup, two 1991 Volkswagen Jetta 1.6 diesels, a 1985 Chevy Chevette 1.8 diesel (Isuzu), 1991 Dodge 4WD truck with 5.9 Cummins turbo-intercooled diesel, 1994 Ford 4WD F250 with 7.3 IDI turbo diesel, two 1986 Chevy Blazers with 6.2 diesels, a 1982 Chevy 4WD 1/2 ton pickup with a 6.2 diesel and four-speed manual trans with OD (kind of rare). Also many diesel farm tractors, backhoes, and bulldozers. I also have one chainsaw that runs on diesel fuel but does not use compression-ignition. Up to last year I ran most on home heating oil. Now I cannot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85Diesel Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 I'm really curious about that diesel chainsaw! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero Posted June 15, 2014 Author Share Posted June 15, 2014 I'm really curious about that diesel chainsaw! The Comet is one - made in the middle 50s in Sweden. Jonsered got hold of the design and sold their own model XA. That's the one I have. It is a "hot bulb" engine. Same principal as several European farm tractors. Runs on diesel fuel and ignites it with a hot-bulb. Not a compression-ignition engine. Just runs on diesel fuel. You can hear one run and watch it smoke on Utube. Or read the history here: http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/6359233ddce7cc3d88256bcb0059e03e/2bbf7691752bc9c088256c29004f9fef?OpenDocument Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMooreMotors Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Do you have the full link to that truck? It looks like they swapped in the newer 3.0L 1KZ-T engine. I think that full floater might be a half-ton axle converted to a 1 ton with an aftermarket kit. Yes we got rid of the 2.4 non turbo diesel engine and fitted a 1KZ engine, very nice power and torque, the diff was made up from 2 diiffs, we sliced off the fully floating hubs from a 88 landcruiser diff and welded them up to the factory diff housing and had 2 new axles made up. Hope that helps. Cheers Cary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMooreMotors Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 http://www.motorhomesforsale.co.nz/88_hilux_4x4_camper.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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