vrocrider Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 (edited) There is a 91 Toy Winnebego Warrior in the for sale section posted with new 8 ply tires. Stock tires are 6 ply. Called the owner who said they were made by Dayton and mounted on stock 14 inch wheels. Googled Dayton tires to locate dealer. Apparently owned by Bridgestone. Firestone dealer says there is no 6 ply or 8 ply available from Bridgestone as far as he knew. Anybody know anything about this? Gettting ready to buy tires & seems 8 ply better than 6 if available. Thanks. Edited January 19, 2012 by vrocrider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 What used to be called '6-ply' are now more commonly called 'Load Range C'. What used to be called '8-ply' are now more commonly called 'Load Range D'. Either will safely carry your Toyota motorhome. Tires have a 'shelf life' of 6-7 years from the date of manufacture. If older than that, they should be replaced. I'm not familiar with a tire currently offered by Dayton (or Bridgestone/Firestone) in 'our' 185R14 size. The owner might have bought and installed them new, but perhaps 10 years ago. With (perhaps) only a few thousand miles on them, he might legitimately consider them 'new', but this is not the case. Or they might have been bought more recently but be some really old stock that sat on a shelf in a warehouse for 10 years. New, maybe, but still no good. http://www.tirerack....e.jsp?techid=55 http://www.tirerack....e.jsp?techid=11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred heath Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Not sure if this helps but trailer tires come in the 185 size, and are usually 6 ply. The only problem I see is from a traction standard. It could be the owner has found some 8 ply trailer tires. In theory they should work. (unless you live in the north.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Trailer tires would be marked 'ST185R14'. They would also be marked 'Trailer Use Only'. I'll assume they are so marked by law and for a reason. I would NOT use them. http://www.discountt...erTireFacts.dos That said, there's a bit of a strange 'situation' with the Kumho Radial 857 (which used to be available in 185R14 Load Range D)). "The Radial 857 is KUMHO's Euro-metric Commercial-sized special purpose tire designed for use on trailers. Radial 857 tires are not intended to be used on cars or light trucks." http://www.tirerack....romCompare1=yes For some unknown reason, Tirerack chooses to list it as a 'Trailer Tire'. However, it does not carry the 'ST' designation on it or the 'Trailer Use Only' marked on it. I have no explanation. But since it appears to be the most expensive option available, I see very little incentive to consider buying a set. Unless I bought a MH with a set already installed. Then I'd keep them! For a new purchase, I'd stick with the 'big names. Hankook RA08, Yokohama Y356 or Continental Vanco 2. http://www.tirerack....romCompare1=yes For my personal needs, I'd chose the RA08 because (at least on www.tirerack.com) they list it as an All Season, whereas the others are listed as 'Summer'. Our Summers only last a couple of weeks, so I'll take all the traction I can get, though I wouldn't expect it to perform too well in snow. For that, you'd have to go with Nokian Hakkapeliitta CS or C2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiter Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 We have almost 20,000 miles on our RA08 ( A little over a year old), plenty of tread still left. HOWEVER - I would NOT characterize them as "All Season" (that is, unless your "All Seasons" are experienced on the 405 in Los Angelos. They are not a good snow / ice tire, we had personal experience with this in New Mexico over the Christmas Holiday.. Slow down, do a couple test slides to get a fell for how the tire behaves. When I'm real slow and there is no risk of hitting any thing, I'll attempt to lock up the brakes, usually its just a quick jab to see how much traction I have. The front and back both locked up fairly easily and at about the same time. I was happy to see this as it told me the brake proportion valve on the rear axle is doing a good job Well, with the Toyhouse, there is no traction, its like a sled, be very careful. :w00t: John Mc 88 Dolphin 4 Auto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I remember reading your comments about performance in the snow. Maybe not a good Snow/Ice tire, but without back to back testing, we can only guess if the other 'Summer' tires would be better or worse. I know I don't have that luxury, but I'm sure Tire Rack is better able to do so. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testingProgram.jsp http://www.tirerack.com/videos/index.jsp?video=84 I should be soooo lucky! BTW, here (Quebec) we don't rely on 'All Season' tires any more. They changed the law couple of years ago and now you'll get a ticket if caught driving between December 15th and March 15th without real Snow/Ice/Winter tires on all wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Toyota Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 MY personal opinon is there is no such thing as an all season tire that is a three season tire. a wint er traction tire is a winter traction tire .in wa state on a mountain pass we have at least six if they post traction tires requred and they do all the time they mean it. you will get a tiket. also if the chains required sighn is up you better have them on. four wd is exmpt but you are requer d to be in 4 wd setting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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