hunkaman Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 i ordered the oil sending unit yesterday. took the advice of Odessybernard and purchased the oem from a toyota parts company. the price was steep ($63.00 ), but it makes sense to get a part that will not need replacing in a year. thanks for providing the exact part number, made it simple to order. there was a mention of replacing the cluster lights to green or blue? wondering if you have info where to order those, and do they need switched before reinstall of cluster, or can they be switched after reinstall? asking because if i want to switch back or different color preference are the lights easily replaced by reaching up under dash once everything is reconnected? one more inquiry, ednelson posted about having the odometer reset by a "tach shop", what is a tach shop and where would i begin looking for one if i decide not to try the reset procedure myself? the description on how to do it was fairly clear, but i may be inclined to let a pro do it. thanks to all for any help with my questions, and please if anyone has anymore insight, advice or suggestions to help guide me through this swap feel free to chime in. thanks again. joe from dover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 57 minutes ago, hunkaman said: ... what is a tach shop ... I assume someone like this (speedo repair). http://www.genesspeedometer.com/p/welcome.html?fbclid=IwAR2d27JAvhzzyhVgwCdPFvBusdYgqMt_Mu7rC27ynIgp5UUEULJxm_wE9Nw Or any shady used car lot on the wrong side of the tracks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odysseybernard Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Smart to get the OEM sender, as it's tough to replace as it's so hard to reach. Mine is only hand tight with Plumbers white tape, really hard to get a wrench in there. It's just above the oil cooler. Don't know if it's easier to pull the alternator as it's just above it. You have to pull the cluster to change out the lights. Can't recall where I got the green OEMs but not really worth pulling it again in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunkaman Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 HEY DEREK, thanks for the link. will call the place to get more info. maybe what i need to have the odo read correctly. thanks again. joe from dover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunkaman Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 hey all, need some more info regarding getting the tach to function. do i understand correctly that i need to run a wire from the coil to the "p" terminal on the cluster? if so how can i identify which wire from the coil is the correct one to splice to? am i looking for a color coded wire, such as a black wire with a yellow stripe? does the schematic identify which wire from the coil to use? thanks in advance for help with this question. joe from dover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odysseybernard Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Joe, On my V6 I did not have to mess with the coil at all, it was a plug and play other than as descibe above. If you have a 4 cylinder, I would search on yotatech for getting the tach to function properly, as it's been done and described over there. Sorry I can't help more, as it's been quite a while now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunkaman Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 odysseybernard, i have the 6 cyl. 3.0 i guess the previous posts that indicated the added ( to make tach work ) wire was for a 4 cylinder ??? no added wire needed for the 3.0 6 cylinder ? since i am here, another question, the cluster i bought i believe, has a "low fuel" indicator light. will this light function when swap is completed without any other parts, or modifications ? sorry for my ignorance, just thought it would be great to have the low fuel light function as well. thanks in advance. joe from dover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odysseybernard Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Tach was jumpy as described way above. I didn't have to add a coil wire. Just hooked it up as described in dayoffs post, with the yellow wire to the p terminal, and had to disconnect the red wire or the brake light would stay on. Had to adjust the tach needle to zero with the ign switch on.I don't know about the low fuel level light as I've never let it get that low but it should function if there is one there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunkaman Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 ok, thank you again for your help. i am a little nerve wacky about this, having never attempted something like this before. will be a happy day when i post that it is done and working as expected. thanks again, i need all the help i can get, and then some. joe from dover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odysseybernard Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Good time to lube the cable while the cluster is out, which I now have to re pull and lube. Speedo needle is shaky and noisy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ednelson100 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 4 hours ago, odysseybernard said: Good time to lube the cable while the cluster is out, which I now have to re pull and lube. Speedo needle is shaky and noisy Did you try adjusting the small square potentiometer screw? Adjusting that stopped mine from shaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odysseybernard Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Isn't the potentiometer screw just for the tach needle? My speedometer needle is the one shaking and noisy which makes me think it just needs cable lube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ednelson100 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Yes, Sorry, reading without my glasses again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunkaman Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 hello all. as of now i am back to square one with this cluster swap issue. here is what has transpired . i bought what i thought was the correct cluster. the cluster i bought is a CABLE driven speedometer. my mechanic told me i need an electronic driven speedometer cluster. how can i determine with 100 percent accuracy that i do indeed need a non cable speedo type cluster? is there someplace/link i could enter my VIN and get the correct info regarding this issue? i basically have all winter to research this, just would like some help in where to start. my mechanic is very knowledgeable, but anyone can make a mistake. could this be a situation where some cabs had both speedo versions in the same model year, mine being a 1992 , 3.0L , 6 cyl, auto trans. if i do need a electronic type speedo, is this type of cluster more rare and hard to find? thanks for any info, opinion, or help with this . joe from dover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odysseybernard Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Joe, Just pull your cluster and see if there's a speedo cable attached to the back of it. Doesn't take long if you've done it before. It's a great oem look mod, worth the effort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odysseybernard Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 My 91 is cable driven. Been making noise when cold. Need to lube it or replace it I suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 I'm not sure how accurate they are, but maybe enter your VIN into one of the many on-line Toyota Dealers and see if they list a speedo cable for your VIN. I looked on this one (without your VIN):- https://www.toyotapartsdeal.com/ They list several speedo cable options for 1990 Pickups and none for 1993 pickups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 I think this is what a 1990 owner would need (according to their site). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunkaman Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 hi again. still working on getting the cluster swap done. with derek's suggestion, i appears my rig does not have a cable driven speedo. i followed derek's advice , and no speedometer cable showed as an available part, although a speed sensor did. so, the cluster i bought last year will not work since it is a cable driven cluster. i have spent many eye straining hours at the computer trying to find a compatible cluster. i have found two or three that will work for me with the exception that they are from a manual shift donor vehicle, thus does not have the pndrl which i would prefer. does anyone know where i can locate the cluster i need??? requirements : 3.0 v6. automatic trans. 2 wheel drive. and NON cable driven speedo. must be an electronic speedo. t-100 or 4runners, from 92 to 95 i believe are swap friendly. any help with this is extremely appreciated. thanks. joe from dover. p.s. to derek- thank you for your tip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maineah Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 On 6/25/2019 at 9:02 AM, odysseybernard said: Good time to lube the cable while the cluster is out, which I now have to re pull and lube. Speedo needle is shaky and noisy Need to do that from the bottom but it makes it a bit easier if the cable is loose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunkaman Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 update: i have been in contact with a seller from the great state of texas that has a nice cluster. the only hitch at the moment is the seller cannot recall if the cluster came from a 3.0v6 or the 3.4v6. does anyone know if the larger 3.4 would make a difference since i have the 3.0 ??? while i am here, another question to throw out there. does it matter if the donor cluster came from a 4wd ?? thanks in advance. joe from dover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 There are lots of 3.0 clusters on ebay. Most pretty cheap and most tell whether 2wd or 4x4. Check it out. No reason to get the wrong one twice Linda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 You should try car-part.com too. This place is only 150 miles from you and has a full cluster for a 93. Linda Danny's Used Auto USA-MI(Detroit) Request_Quote 313-273-9030 / 313-273-DANY Request_Insurance_Quote 155 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ednelson100 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 I have removed several cable driven, automatic, 2WD from Toyota T100 3.4 pickups and installed them in 3.0 RVs and they worked just fine. I'm not sure if they even made an automatic 4WD drive that would have the PN DLR cluster that you need. Defrag has swapped the electronic cluster and did have a couple issues, try contacting him or look up his posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunkaman Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 ednelson100, thanks for the reply. you have just answered one of the major questions i had. i can now assume buying a cluster that came from a 3.4v6 will work just fine. thank you so much. and the 4wd vs. 2wd issue is probably not relevant. i am trying to ask questions to cover any possible conflict, before purchasing another cluster only to find for some reason IT will not work. been there, done that LOL. thanks again. much appreciated. i would really like to accomplish this project this year, before camping season is here. joe from dover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunkaman Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 hi linda, thanks for the reply. i will contact the link provided thanks very much. joe from dover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunkaman Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 i found a yotatech thread that covered all my questions and provided an in depth (with lots of photos) step by step swap procedure. thanks for all your help everyone. i have the electronic driven cluster on order. who knows maybe will get swapped soon. LOL. and i do have a very nice cable driven cluster for sale!!. thanks again to all. joe from dover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 1 hour ago, hunkaman said: i found a yotatech thread that covered all my questions and provided an in depth (with lots of photos) step by step swap procedure. Care to share a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunkaman Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) hi derek. i am not smart enough to "share a link" the way you probably would, but i can tell you how i got there ! i googled T-100 INSTRUMENT CLUSTER, when the line popped up T-100 CLUSTER REMOVAL, i clicked on that. then the YotaTech forun block (?) came up and i scrolled down to i think the last line which read, "sr5 gauge cluster swap. how to with pics. 04-08-2009." when i clicked on that it brought me to the toyotatech page with that topic. topic title on the yotatech page was "toyota 4 runner 1984-1995 how to swap gauge cluster. date of topic 02-09-2016 10:13am. don't know if this helps, hope it does because the yotatech thread was really helpful for someone that has no knowledge of this stuff, that someone being me. lol. joe from dover. Edited March 24, 2020 by hunkaman hit wrong key Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 this looks like it https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116/sr5-gauge-cluster-swap-how-pics-179106/ Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunkaman Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 to quote from a grateful dead song, "what a long strange trip it's been". finally found an electronic speedo cluster. i had previously purchased the cable driven version, which was the wrong one. i am having the cluster installed this week by a mechanic skilled in these things. will be happy this "trip" is done. joe from dover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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