doghouse Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 I am just finishing putting in the rear air lift air bags on the 1990 Odessey. I noticed I guy on the forum who put on some leaf spring assists on his rear leaf springs. They go on the back half of the leaf spring toward the back. Where do you get these? MFG? part number? Do they add ride height and create a stiffer spring? I was thinking of going with an air shock gabriel hijackers, but maybe these leaf assits with some monrows would be better for ride comfort. Any info here? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doghouse Posted May 19, 2011 Author Share Posted May 19, 2011 http://toyotamotorhome.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=923&st=0&p=3629&hl=+leaf%20+assist&fromsearch=1entry3629 third post down with pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 The air springs you've just installed should do everything you want, unless the rear springs you've got are seriously sagging. Add a good set of shocks and you'll be all set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doghouse Posted May 20, 2011 Author Share Posted May 20, 2011 Thanks for the input but I would like to know where I can get these leaf spring assists and input from anyone that has used them? Link? Where to buy? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 "> I'm getting ready to fix my '90 Odyssey's sagging rear end and I'm considering a couple different options. It's a 21' model and already has air bags but they don't do enough to offset the sag. Does anyone have an opinion they can offer on these: > > 1. Re-temper the leaf springs - $250 to $450 > > 2. Buy new replacement springs - $?? > > 3. Hellwig Load Pro-15 Medium Duty Helper Springs (1500 lbs) - $144 > http://www.sdtrucksprings.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1345 > I haven't priced Hellwig's 2500 or 3500 lb helper springs yet. > > 4. LOADPRO PROGRESSIVE RATE HELPER SPRINGS (2500 - 3500 lbs) - $180 > http://www.jcwhitney.com/loadpro-progressive-rate-helper-springs/p2005980.jcwx# > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 http://www.truckspring.com/suspension-parts/helper-springs/leaf-springs/hellwig.aspx?make=Toyota&year=1990&model=Pickup http://www.truckspring.com/suspension-parts/helper-springs/leaf-springs/supersprings.aspx?make=Toyota&year=1990&model=Pickup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanman Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 <br />"<font face="arial"><font size="2"><font color="black">> I'm getting ready to fix my '90 Odyssey's sagging rear end and I'm considering a couple different options. It's a 21' model and already has air bags but they don't do enough to offset the sag. Does anyone have an opinion they can offer on these:<br />> <br />> 1. Re-temper the leaf springs I've heard bad things about "retempering" large springs from car guys I know from work, be carefull vanman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doghouse Posted May 21, 2011 Author Share Posted May 21, 2011 Thanks for the info. JC got the Hellwig leaf assists I think I need for $95. Not sure if this kit 1598 is for 2 spring set or 4. 4wd or 2wd? http://www.jcwhitney.com/heavy-duty-shocks-with-overload-springs/p2006170.jcwx?filterid=c11298d2183y1990j2 This other kit 1515 says 4 springs $129 http://www.truckspring.com/suspension-parts/helper-springs/leaf-springs/hellwig.aspx?make=Toyota&year=1990&model=Pickup The hellwig site says 1560 for Toyota 1 ton dually RV $142 http://www.hellwigproducts.com/products/load-control/medium-duty-helper-springs/ The other setups may not apply, but the other guys seemed to use the 550 kit. What about these Gabriel HD shocks with overload springs? These are not gas shocks as well? I don't see a problem with the shock mounts carrying a little bit of the load? Better than air shocks? $84 a pair http://www.jcwhitney.com/heavy-duty-shocks-with-overload-springs/p2006170.jcwx?filterid=c11298d2183y1990j2 Another option? Ride control helpers. $29 a pair. Could put over monrows in the future if I needed more beef? http://www.jcwhitney.com/ride-control-helpers/p2005874.jcwx?filterid=c11298d2183y1990o120j2 Monrow has got a buy three get one free deal on shocks that ends in May. About $85 for four shocks with this deal. 34803 rear and 34953 front. Also Air lift has a $50 rebate on airbag kit that ends in May Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doghouse Posted May 22, 2011 Author Share Posted May 22, 2011 I know for a fact that the Gabriel load carrier rear shocks fit 43048. Autozone $76 for a pair I might just use these with the airbags for now before trying helper springs. I noticed that Monroe sells a Sensatrac load assist shock that looks similar to the Gabriel one above, but does not list a use for a 1990 Toyota truck. Anyone ever try theses shocks and have a part number for one that fits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Try these guys:- http://www.shockwarehouse.com/site/product.cfm/id/17922/name/37032-Monroe-Sensatrac-Toyota-4-Runner-and-Pickup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doghouse Posted May 23, 2011 Author Share Posted May 23, 2011 Nothing for the load leveler series for toyota. They call it a sensatrac load assist different from sensatrac regular. http://www.monroe.com/products/Sensa-Trac/Load-Adjusting-Shock-Absorbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doghouse Posted May 23, 2011 Author Share Posted May 23, 2011 Well I finally found the part number for the Monroe load levelers 58486 Rock auto has them $63 for the pair. http://www.rockauto.com/dbphp/prt,904,58486 says maintain ride height up to 1200 lbs Compressed Length11.125"Extended Length18.000"Travel6.875"Parts PackP101http://catalog.monroe.com/catalogPart/displayPartDetails.do?partKey=185935&catalogKey=298&partNumber=58486&catalogCode=monroe&loadStatus=ACTIVE&locale=EN&methodName=displayPartDetails The gabriel load assists do not list the specs, but are a bout 19 to 20 inches in extended length measuring center of bushing mount to bushing. 43048 The gabriels say 500 lbs per pair of load capacity vs the 1200 for the monroes http://www.gabriel.com/ Not sure which one is better. I don't know if having the extra 1 or 2 inches of length on the gabriel is better than the monroes or they are close enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YVR Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Like most of our units my leaf springs have 20 years of hauling around the Winnebago box, and they now sag. I have air bags, but mine do not really give much lift. Board members have posted various repair methods. For me, I definitely need to lift 3 to 4inches. Just a quick synopsis reveals - One member used the $40.00 long leaf, while another said it was too weak. I just wonder how much lift these provided? Someone else said use the Hellwig system which is supposed to be good for 1500 lbs, and is in the $150 range? Will these lift 3 - 4 inches, and are they the grand answer? Another board member used a spring shop, while this is obviously the best, it's also the most expensive. Along this line, does anyone have a Spring Shop recommendation for North West Washington state? Looking at the above postings folks seem to be all over the place. So what has worked best for lifting the back end 3 to 4 inches, and what was the price, and are you satisfied? Thanks, YVR (Ron) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elderthewelder Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Like most of our units my leaf springs have 20 years of hauling around the Winnebago box, and they now sag. I have air bags, but mine do not really give much lift. Board members have posted various repair methods. For me, I definitely need to lift 3 to 4inches. Just a quick synopsis reveals - One member used the $40.00 long leaf, while another said it was too weak. I just wonder how much lift these provided? Someone else said use the Hellwig system which is supposed to be good for 1500 lbs, and is in the $150 range? Will these lift 3 - 4 inches, and are they the grand answer? Another board member used a spring shop, while this is obviously the best, it's also the most expensive. Along this line, does anyone have a Spring Shop recommendation for North West Washington state? Looking at the above postings folks seem to be all over the place. So what has worked best for lifting the back end 3 to 4 inches, and what was the price, and are you satisfied? Thanks, YVR (Ron) Not sure where in Washington State you are, but there is a spring shop in Everett, Wa that does good work. as you said this is the most expensive route to go. I took my 87 Toyota 1 ton flatbed dually in there for a quote. They wanted something like $600 to re-arch my springs and add 2 new ones on each side. I did not get the work done, but I know they do good work there. Here is the link http://www.aalbubrothers.com/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YVR Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 I should have added to post #13 above that I had a quote from a spring shop in Vancouver B.C. that would make new leaf springs for around $630 tax in. I was hoping to find a shop - North of Mount Vernon Washington that could fit a new leaf or two into the pack for considerably less. Here in Canada fitting, a new leaf was almost the same price as manufacturing new spring packs. So I was hoping our American neighbors would be slightly more competitive. Thanks, YVR (Ron) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futar Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Here's the info you want. You can buy them at just about any parts store for cheap about $40. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futar Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Didn't Post. Try again. rideeffex.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanAatTheCape Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 do not think they will work, at least on my winnie warrior. The airbags sit on top of the springs & the axle is attached on the bottom. "> I'm getting ready to fix my '90 Odyssey's sagging rear end and I'm considering a couple different options. It's a 21' model and already has air bags but they don't do enough to offset the sag. Does anyone have an opinion they can offer on these: > > 1. Re-temper the leaf springs - $250 to $450 > > 2. Buy new replacement springs - $?? > > 3. Hellwig Load Pro-15 Medium Duty Helper Springs (1500 lbs) - $144 > http://www.sdtrucksp...roducts_id=1345 > I haven't priced Hellwig's 2500 or 3500 lb helper springs yet. > > 4. LOADPRO PROGRESSIVE RATE HELPER SPRINGS (2500 - 3500 lbs) - $180 > http://www.jcwhitney.../p2005980.jcwx# > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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