passman Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 I've never had a vehicle with air bags before, Is it normal to have both air bags and shocks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Did you mean to say "air bags and air shocks" or 'air bags and shocks?" I ask because if the latter - one has little to do with the other. Two different devices with two different jobs. Shocks (dampeners) are always supposed to be there whether air-bags/springs are used or not. Shocks are there to absorb impulses from dips, dives, and bumps in the road. Air-bags (if used) are to increase weight carrying capacity. Mine has both air-bags and air-shocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Yes All Sunraders after 1985 came with air suspension standard and shocks. One does not replace the other. Both work well together though to give stability and better ride on such a small chassis carrying so much weight. Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passman Posted July 19, 2014 Author Share Posted July 19, 2014 Thank you Linda, I assume these are the ones I need? http://www.eshocks.com/bil_Ind.asp?VC=90Q11&SubChar=Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canman47 Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Mine came with air bags but they are blown out probably from being run flat. I don't think the previous owner knew they were there. Is it worth replacing them? The manual for them said that they do not increase load capacity, just increase stability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Thank you Linda, I assume these are the ones I need? http://www.eshocks.com/bil_Ind.asp?VC=90Q11&SubChar=Q Yes that's what I would buy. I need to do this soon too. Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 The manual for them said that they do not increase load capacity, just increase stability. Not at all surprising to see that in the manual. Perfect protection against someone with a Toyota with a GVWR of 6000lb who adds a set of 5000lb air springs and suddenly thinks he can safely load it up to 11000lb. All the air springs will do is add extra capacity to the leaf springs. But what if the weak link is the front brakes? Or the rear brakes? Or the transmission? Or the frame? My personal theory as to why the GVWR is set at 6000lb and not 6500lb or 7000lb? Well, vehicles with a GVWR over 6000lb start running into restrictions as to where they can legally drive. Not many, granted, but enough that they couldn't say to buyers "You can drive it anywhere." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Yes that's what I would buy. And I thought you were happy with your KYBs. For less $$$. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Mine came with air bags but they are blown out probably from being run flat. I don't think the previous owner knew they were there. Is it worth replacing them? The manual for them said that they do not increase load capacity, just increase stability. Since we have seen many owners have to replace completely shot leaf springs I would say the air bags at least increase the life span of those springs. My springs are still smiling nicely and showing no sign of wear Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 And I thought you were happy with your KYBs. For less $$$. :) Yes mine came with KYB's but I have no idea when they were installed or how old they are. After 10 years I have recently noticed they are not what they used to be. Time to start thinking about replacement. It could take me years to think about it though so I had better start now Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passman Posted July 20, 2014 Author Share Posted July 20, 2014 Yes that's what I would buy. I need to do this soon too. Linda S I hope to have Summit beat their price by a bit, plus I've used Summit before. http://www.summitracing.com/newproductsandmedia/newsyoucanuse/our-beat-a-price-guarantee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Mine came with air bags but they are blown out probably from being run flat. I don't think the previous owner knew they were there. Is it worth replacing them? The manual for them said that they do not increase load capacity, just increase stability. I assume the manual is stating that the air-bags do not increase the certified GVW. If you have tired leaf springs - the air bags certainly increase the ability of a 5000-6000 lb. Toyota minitruck to handle weight better. I don't think anybody ever made leaf springs OEM for those trucks that didn't suffer under the constant load of the RV added. Same goes for the hardware attaching the leaf springs to the frame. The air-bags support the vehicle without using that hardware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 I should of said "GVWR" but I'm sure you know what I meant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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