SamnElla Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I am in the market for an RV, and am intrigued by Toyota's quality and efficiency as well as their mechanical fortitude. I am going to look at my first RV, Monday. How does one determine worth ? I went to NADA and KBB and both did not seem very helpful. I am looking for a 90 model and up ( V6/6 lug ) and was wondering general worth from the basics on up, and what to look for. I am an old mechanic and TV repairman, so I am handy, but want a useable space to work with, one I can use and do a little here and there. But ultimately, how would I find the value of what I am looking at ? Any help would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoprat Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 SamnElla? Nahhhh, I ain't a-goin' there ! Try here. http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/ULPfSbA-bPvdv...NG%20GUIDELINES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamnElla Posted April 11, 2009 Author Share Posted April 11, 2009 SamnElla? Nahhhh, I ain't a-goin' there !Try here. http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/ULPfSbA-bPvdv...NG%20GUIDELINES I cannot seem to use the link. Incomplete ? The SamnElla thing was an on purpose naming of our 2 dogs. Sam, was a black lab that I sent for a pack of cigarettes about 7 years ago, and we still have Ella, our 11 year old Rottweiler. Her full name is Ella Menope Stay Ha ! Sam has been replaced with a yellow lab ( one month after the loss of Sam ) with George W. Bailey ( Bailey ) and the latest addition/stray and Bassett hound Dazey Duke. Anyway, can you repaste that link ? I cannot use. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoprat Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 Well, let's see here Rule of Thumb for fair pricing of Toyota motorhomes: Take the last digit of the year, subtract 1, and multiply by $1000. (Prices are based on model year, not chassis year which could be one year previous.) For a 4 cyl. ('83 - '89) calculate as above. For example 1987 = $6000. [For '77 to '82 motorhomes (not pop-tops) the prices rarely are below $1500. Pop-top Chinooks (un-restored) can be a bit less.] Then to this base price apply the following factors. For a V-6 engine, add $1000. Prices for nice condition V-6s start at about $9,000 (1989) up to about $14,000 or more for the last year made (1994). For low miles (<50K) or low miles on a new engine, add about $1000 or more. For high miles (over 130K) subtract about as much. Add about $600 if it has a built-in generator. (They cost $2000+ to install). Add about the same for a substantial solar system. If it is from a private seller and is extremely clean and well cared for, add about $800. If it is from a dealer who has tested & repaired all the multiple systems and gives a warranty = nice peace of mind, add about $1000. If it is a Sunrader, add up to $1200 depending on model. These guidelines are based on an informal study of Toyota motorhomes currently being listed and sold, and vary somewhat from the so-called "official" bluebook or Nada Guides pricing. Nada Guides lists only average or below average condition, and unfortunately does not have a category for pricing coaches that are well cared for and in top condition. Ebay prices are different from in person sales from private sellers or dealers. They tend to be as much as 10 to 20% lower when there is the unknown factor of buying a vehicle sight unseen. hope I don't get into trouble for pasting this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamnElla Posted April 11, 2009 Author Share Posted April 11, 2009 Well, let's see hereRule of Thumb for fair pricing of Toyota motorhomes: Take the last digit of the year, subtract 1, and multiply by $1000. (Prices are based on model year, not chassis year which could be one year previous.) For a 4 cyl. ('83 - '89) calculate as above. For example 1987 = $6000. [For '77 to '82 motorhomes (not pop-tops) the prices rarely are below $1500. Pop-top Chinooks (un-restored) can be a bit less.] Then to this base price apply the following factors. For a V-6 engine, add $1000. Prices for nice condition V-6s start at about $9,000 (1989) up to about $14,000 or more for the last year made (1994). For low miles (<50K) or low miles on a new engine, add about $1000 or more. For high miles (over 130K) subtract about as much. Add about $600 if it has a built-in generator. (They cost $2000+ to install). Add about the same for a substantial solar system. If it is from a private seller and is extremely clean and well cared for, add about $800. If it is from a dealer who has tested & repaired all the multiple systems and gives a warranty = nice peace of mind, add about $1000. If it is a Sunrader, add up to $1200 depending on model. These guidelines are based on an informal study of Toyota motorhomes currently being listed and sold, and vary somewhat from the so-called "official" bluebook or Nada Guides pricing. Nada Guides lists only average or below average condition, and unfortunately does not have a category for pricing coaches that are well cared for and in top condition. Ebay prices are different from in person sales from private sellers or dealers. They tend to be as much as 10 to 20% lower when there is the unknown factor of buying a vehicle sight unseen. hope I don't get into trouble for pasting this. Thanks for all your help. You shouldn't get in trouble as I will be looking at 2 models posted on this site and I am very green when it comes to this, but am an old TV repair man and an old mechanic as well. So ignorant, but not blind. Again, thank you for the help. Looking at the Mt Pleasant listing for 8k Monday as well as one other for 3900 with electrical issues and no heat. Also looking at some other class B's and Class A's all under 10K budget. I hope the Toyota is big enough and in good enough shape to take as that is my first preference ( Economy ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoprat Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 Hey. Us 'ol wrench twisters gotta help each other out ! Luck. Doode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
advocate1 Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Although this may be a little late to help the poster, I think that the guidelines were a bit on the high side. Between last year and this year I have seen about a 40% decline in average sales prices, with a few exceptions where unschooled buyers may have overpaid. Because of the economy, no one want to spend any accumulated cash. Because Toyota's are to old for loans they have to be purchased cash in hand. As a result, coupled with the drastic drop in gas prices, the demand has dropped a bunch. In addition, I have seen more than one Toyota being sold to be able to make house payments or pay bills and even just to buy food. Sad as it is, these all serve to drive prices down. Right now there are about twice as many Toyota's listed on Ebay as was typical last year, ditto on Craigs List. In short, supply is up and demand is down and we all know what that means. Right now I would be hard pressed to pay more than$10,000 for the best Sunrader on the market and a bit less for anything else. Right now there is a friends Winne in my driveway that was bought last year for $13,500. Today they would be lucky to get $8500 if they had to sell it. Just last week I evaluated a 1991 Dolphin V6 being sold for $5995, right here in Riverside, CA where prices are normally a little higher than average. The buyer I represented wanted something a little nicer and passed om it, but it was a good, solid unit with some minor water damage. Becaue of current prices the buyer wanted "No Water Damage" and could afford to pay a litle more to get one. Just get on Craigs list and start scouting, you will find the high priced units and the right priced units fast. The high priced will still be there next week, the right priced ones will be gone. More so than ever before, cash talks and as the realtors always say, "Right now is the best time to buy". Sunrader Bob Offical PITA to serial resellers..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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