Well, I tested the battery and I got a 12.34 so I assumed it was shot until I reread the notes I'd taken and realized I was supposed to disconnect the black cable and I hadn't. I pulled and pushed and twisted and got thoroughly frustrated and still couldn't get the battery out to remove it. Just got back from a really fun time at roundout resort in accord, ny. If you have kids and want to keep them busy and happy, it's a great place. I'll work on the battery again tomorrow After I purchase a new escape hatch cover so I don't wake up drenched again next time.