Thanks for everyone's comments so far, please keep them coming. I looked at a 1984 Sunrader 21ft in my area yesterday. A model I hadn't seen before. The door was near the rear and kitchen was on back wall. Not well cared for and just looked old. Lots of surface rust on metal, under hood etc. Mabe a lot of life near the beach. I politely told owner I was searching for something cleaner and probably newer. From pictures I've seen the rigs in early 90's are much more modern looking, grey colors, ect. Do most of those have v6's? My local Toyota mechanic says he can upgrade a 22re w/manual to a 3.4 v6 for about $8000. That sounds interesting if the price of coach isn't too much. Wondering if most of the 21ft have the bed/dinette thing in rear with large windows?