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    New owner here! 1981 Sunrader

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    43 minutes ago, linda s said:

    Only if it was upgraded to a full floater at some point. You need to know the difference. Plenty of information on this site and in the answers people have already give you

    Linda S

    I do understand the difference between the 5lug semi float foolie and the 6lug ff. The dolphin that lives next to me has 6lug axles in both front and back. Seein this led to be believe that the dolphins came equipt with a non recalled axle and may be a possible option as donats axles.....

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    Ok i think ill be switching to the 185r-14c's becuase something is clearly wrong with my current set up. At parked, they do not even come close to touching. And both of the blow outs have been clear edge to edge rips... Indicating i dont know what.

     

    and as far as getting the foolies fixed, i totaly would, but im a bit over whelmed with the sourcing and transporting of parts and finding somebody who would know how to do it.. Anyone out here in Seattle?!

    New owner here! 1981 Sunrader

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    23 hours ago, fred heath said:

    The GM full float I installed is rated for 7500#'s. No way I'll ever get that much weight over the rear axle.

    Any difference in the actual weight of the replacement axle will have no bearing on the carry capacity. Maybe a little on total vehicle weight.

    Yea i meant to ask how will my weight carrying capacity increase...

    New owner here! 1981 Sunrader

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    On September 2, 2016 at 6:32 AM, Totem said:

    the main thing is no matter what lose the foolies. they are the issue. cheapest safe ride would be losing the foolies and swapping into better load range rears while you get your axle or go full monte and get r done but be without use for a while. in no way is the foolie safe unless of course you dont mind driving and having your wheels AND brakes come off if it fails...

    Well my rear dualies are load range D yokohama 195/75r14 so thats good

    New owner here! 1981 Sunrader

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    25 minutes ago, linda s said:

    1)There isn't a safe weight for the foolies.

    2) It shouldn't weigh much more than the axle already there. I would guess 50 lbs difference. I'm just guessing of course. I don't remember anyone ever comparing the weight of the 2.

    3) It's a full floater like a Dana axle or axles used on heavy trucks. Not about going dry but more about even distribution of weight and separating torque from weight bearing. In semi floater the axle shaft handles both. Stressful

    4) Yes

    5) I have an 86 and they don't have the 6 lugs in the front. Came with a full floater but that year they didn't use the reverse duallies in the front. It's never bothered me and it's not necessary. You can do that later if you happen to run across the parts

    Linda S

    Sorry, i meant will my load capacity increase after the swap?

    and, do you not mind carrying two different spares?

    New owner here! 1981 Sunrader

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    Just talked to the guy! 

    questions:

    1. what is a "safe" weight for the foolies?

    2. How much weight will this "upgrade" add?

    3. This new axle is safe because it has dual bearings that wont go dry and break?

    4. Is this the beefiest option for an acle swap?

    5. How would i go about getting the fromt axle swap?

    New owner here! 1981 Sunrader

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    On August 30, 2016 at 6:25 AM, Totem said:

    I have a 21' 86 sunrader. It had the death axle. the death axle is called such because it may cause death, not because it has. The notion that smoking is safe because its the cancer that kills you is analogous to JDE's claim that the axle has never killed someone. Its just a matter of time before the wrong road condition on a switchback in the mountains is hit with it and...well, take a look at the pictures of what happens when one of these RVS rolls. Not pretty.

    Personally there's another advantage to having the full floater 6 lug axle.. LOAD. trust me you will want to attach stuff to the rear bumper and will overload that thing.

    you will strap kayaks or chairs or what have you and your weight will get up there.

    SO here is the logic path for you:

    Get rid of the foolie (by unbolting it from its mate.) get some decent rear tires. Run like that and be careful while you save up and search for the proper 1 ton axle.

    Also look for 1 ton front hubs and 7 wheels so you only need 1 spare tire.

    Take your time doing this. I would source an axle on craigs list and drive to it get it and bring it home. We see axles on craigs in here for pennys on the dollar.

    If you get one from car-part the shipping and yard tard fees will have you well over $1000. Ive seen complete axles with leafs and shock mounts for 250$ in craigs.

    On car-part you wont be getting the shock mounts and will then be asking us where to get those... and they werent cheap to fab in my case along with their ubolts.

    So theres my two cents worth along with adding that yes in Michigan tire shops up north will still do tire siping ("cutting grooves in the tires") but usually only if there is a decent thickness left on the tread and no warranty whatsoever.

     

    Yea man i will totally make the switch if i can find the proper rear axle. But i dont havr the first clue as to how to identify axles that may work or not. I like the idea of redoing the front also, having only one spare is nice.

    i need to find a full floating 1-ton DUALY rear axle? What size? And which ever car i rip this off of would the front axle work too?

    New owner here! 1981 Sunrader

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    On August 29, 2016 at 5:54 PM, bicoastal eric said:

    do the rear wheels have 5 lugs? 

    if so it is not acceptable. period. 

    from my research I wouldn't even reccomend removing the "fooly" and using the original axle. it is not a 1 ton full floating axle and it is very likely that it will fail and cause LOTS of damage and hopefully no deaths. 

    yes its a shorty, but its fully loaded, big rack on the back, all the bells and whistles, get it weighed and then reconsider using the original axle.

    but from everything Ive read, DONT USE THAT AXLE

    looks like an awesome rig, and it will be a blast for many years to come but I'm sorry you've got to spend a couple more thousand to get it up to par. perhaps you will fix the clunk while under there. ps the boys at that dealership are pulling opinions out of their you know what and clearly didn't spend the 10 minutes to look up the actual information.

     

    I weighed it today, its 4880 And the clunking is just the back whipping up and down with old cabinets on shitty seattle streets.

    New owner here! 1981 Sunrader

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    Just now, linda s said:

    There is still the problem of one exploding. Did you run over a huge nail or did the tire explode by itself. If one was faulty the others might be too if they were purchased at the same time.

    Linda S

    I must have hit something because the tires are in good condition still. Ether way, im picking up a new one from discount and i will have them check them all. But to clarify the axle issue. Just removing the outside tire of the dualy is sufficient?

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