Do non-stick pots and pans exist that are non-toxic?

[Stevo]

I don't want to do the Teflon thing so I was wondering if non-stick pots and pans exist that are non-toxic? Bottom line is: I'm looking for super easy to clean pots and pans that won't poison my food so I can reduce water usage. Is there such a thing?

Thanks

Steve

[5Toyota]

YES THER E IS PORCLEN ON CAST IRION i have some pices made by a BELGION company called DESQOWARE made BELGIUM very nice stuff some from 1950s check see if they are still in busness i dont trust china made stuff eather you dont know what it is i use that or american made REVERE STAINLESS STEEL OR AMERICAN CAST OR THE BELGON AFEW YEARS AGO THE BELGEN COMPANY WAS STILL IN BUSSNESS RED ORANGE IN COLOR ALSO SEEN WHITE OR BLUE last forever way better then tefelon junk.

[linda s]

Look for stuff tagged green ware. Ceramic finish non stick very durable. Orgreenic, Thermolon and some other brands.

I consder myself a pretty good cook and I love it.

Linda S

And I actually cook in my motorhome. Microwave is for reheating my coffee only

[Derek up North]

Overheat the oil and you'll get carcinogens too.

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Panic+in+the+pantry%3A+a+few+thoughts+on+carcinogenicity.-a0153707976

[linda s]

Cast iron in a motorhome is just way too heavy and difficult to store. I have never had a green pan deconstruct on me or show even any signs of wear. I use them everyday at home and in my motorhome and I throughly recommend them. Did I say lightweight. No your omelett won't slide out like you greased it with wd40 but pretty close and the pan will clean easily. There's always someone out there that will poo poo everything. In this case I just don't believe it. Did I mention I cook a lot. Like catering small parties and work functions. Experience is everything

Linda

[Derek up North]

There's always someone out there that will poo poo everything.

Thank goodness or I wouldn't be able to do anything. Especially the fun stuff!

[linda s]

Yes I know Derek but for some reason when you do it it's funny. All alone there in the frozen North you get a free pass

Linda S

[5Toyota]

THE PORCLEN COATED CAST IRON DOES NOT REQUER SEASONING LIKE PLAIN CAST I JUST REMBERED I HAVE A PORCLEN COATED CAST ALUMINUM SKILET I CARRY IN THE MOTERHOME

[Derek up North]

With all the snow melting around here, I could use some shoes with Teflon soles!

[Totem]

i disagree with linda. a good cast iron dutch oven is worth the extra weight. oh man the food that i have cooked in mine... yum.

[Bob C]

I agree with Totem. I carry a cast frying pan and a pancake griddle. I travelled by motorcycle for years and pack light. I will take the heavy pans as a luxury.

[WME]

Another vote for cast iron. Yea it would be heavier if you brought a whole set, but a fry pan with a lid can do double duty as a mini ditch oven outside over a campfire. IMHO Non stick doesn't really like fires

[Stevo]

But the key points for the type of pans and pots I want are non-toxic (i.e. no PTFE, and no PFOA, and no silicone) and NON-STICK. I want the non-toxic / non-stick combo (if it exists) so I'm not wasting gallons of water washing stuff that sticks like after cooking an omelet. Greenpan uses silicone in their Thermalon so I don't want that. I just ordered this Orgreenics from Walmart to see if it will work in the no-stick department: http://www.walmart.com/ip/OrGREENic-10-Frying-Pan/20575425 Orgreenics has mixed reviews about the effectiveness of its non-stick because their commercials show food just falling out of it. I'll give it a thorough test and if it doesn't work then I'll have to return it.

Who cooks anything with a pot or pan at 500 degree's??

[Maineah]

I'm old enough now easy cleaning is far more important!

[linda s]

But the key points for the type of pans and pots I want are non-toxic (i.e. no PTFE, and no PFOA, and no silicone) and NON-STICK. I want the non-toxic / non-stick combo (if it exists) so I'm not wasting gallons of water washing stuff that sticks like after cooking an omelet. Greenpan uses silicone in their Thermalon so I don't want that. I just ordered this Orgreenics from Walmart to see if it will work in the no-stick department: http://www.walmart.com/ip/OrGREENic-10-Frying-Pan/20575425 Orgreenics has mixed reviews about the effectiveness of its non-stick because their commercials show food just falling out of it. I'll give it a thorough test and if it doesn't work then I'll have to return it.

Who cooks anything with a pot or pan at 500 degree's??

No it won't just fall out but it will come out easily and clean quickly. I have a couple of Orgreenic and some other ones I don't remember. I bought them all at discount stores for cheap. Cheaper than Walmart. All are holding up well.

Linda S

[mr.wolfie]

But the key points for the type of pans and pots I want are non-toxic (i.e. no PTFE, and no PFOA, and no silicone) and NON-STICK. I want the non-toxic / non-stick combo (if it exists) so I'm not wasting gallons of water washing stuff that sticks like after cooking an omelet. Greenpan uses silicone in their Thermalon so I don't want that. I just ordered this Orgreenics from Walmart to see if it will work in the no-stick department: http://www.walmart.com/ip/OrGREENic-10-Frying-Pan/20575425 Orgreenics has mixed reviews about the effectiveness of its non-stick because their commercials show food just falling out of it. I'll give it a thorough test and if it doesn't work then I'll have to return it.

Who cooks anything with a pot or pan at 500 degree's??

My son cooks at over 500... but only when casting bullets

[Totem]

the beauty of cast iron is that the food just seasons the pan and becomes the natural non stick coating. It also helps flavor future meals; but hey knock yourself out if blowing your eggs out of your pan is a requirement. Personally anything that they call a "space age ceramic polymer" spells C-A-N-C-E-R to me.

[MontanaChinook]

I think at some point, until general feelings on the environment change, most things that really WORK, without humans having to do half the work, will be TOXIC. Either that's just the way it is and "natural" fixes just don't work as well, or enough demand from consumers is not there to do the research to find non toxic solutions for things like rust remover, cleaners, non stick surfaces, that really don't take a lot of work on our part, instead of doing the job all by themselves.

My uneducated opinion.

[Bob C]

Montana-Chinook: you mentioned non toxic rust removers. There is such a product called "Rustbeeter" Look up rustbeeter.com to see what it is. It is reasonably priced and works great.

[Derek up North]

.. who can afford steak ...

Depends where you get your steak!

http://www.road-kill-cafe.com/roadkill.html

[MontanaChinook]

Montana-Chinook: you mentioned non toxic rust removers. There is such a product called "Rustbeeter" Look up rustbeeter.com to see what it is. It is reasonably priced and works great.

Just did a quick google search on it. Looks promising! Thanks. It seems like vinegar is also a good option.

[Totem]

might just take a bullet of low caliber too!

[bufbooth]

My best pan is a low profile cast iron skillet.

[fred heath]

Cider vinegar is a great rust remover and it's eco friendly. Don't just use on cooking surfaces. Any rusty areas of your mh will clean up nicely. In pans, pour some in, let it sit for 10 minutes and rinse out.

[Galvanized Knight]

well seasoned cast iron for sure!

[Stevo]

I bought one of those Orgreenics pans because they say they don't use Teflon. I used it once and was awake all night so I took it back. It was only later that I discovered that Ogreenics have silicone in them. It sucks that my bod is especially sensitive to junk and maybe yours isn't, but I discovered later that a lot of these pans that brag about not being toxic because they don't use Teflon are using something that is probably just as toxic when heated up.

[Totem]

We told you dood.... You simply cannot trust "as seen on TV " chinesium merchandise especially when you are heating things to be eaten.

You are not alone on being sensitive to toxic waste; Most Americans are and our recent explosion in cancers, kidney failure and other malaise is proof of it. Once upon a time before the baby boomers generation even, they used Cast Iron. Iron is in your blood. the seasoning improves flavor, there simply is no better way to get it done. Beware fake chinesium cast iron that is really dirty aluminum also.. if your tendons dont pop when you pick it up; its not cast.

[Dolphinite no longer here]

I have to say that this thing about Teflon cookware giving someone cancer or liver disease or ingrown toenails seems to be one of those urban myths. Every 15 years or so the subject comes up as a new generation hears the last generation's tales about this cookware. The first time I heard about Teflon being a carcinogin was is the middle sixties, then it came up again about 20 years ago and its floating around the Internet now. My only question is where'e the proof (beef)? Has there ever been a confirmed case of cancer from ingesting Teflon? Where's the scientific proof that Teflon cookware causes anything?

Personally, I use cast iron stuff in my Toyhome because I like the way it heats food. Yeah, it can be a little more work to clean, but its not that big of a job and how much of an affect can the weight of a deep frying pan with a lid and a small Dutch oven with a lid have on a Toyhome?

I used to use only Teflon pots and pans for years and it hasn't affected me affected me affected me yet.

John

[Totem]

http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/athome/teflon-and-perfluorooctanoic-acid--pfoa

sorry man, but I dont want it in my blood as an "unknown" substance. cast iron wont flake off in my food and look like "pepper". Even if it does, its a substance thats present in my hemoglobin.

So there is your proof, that its "unknown" which is one step below safe and one step above carcinogen.

[Dolphinite no longer here]

Totem,

I've seen that evaluation of Teflon before and the conclusions just prove my point, that there is no proof that Teflon causes cancer. To "suggest" that any chemical, in this case PFOA , a chemical used in the manufacture of Teflon, might be carcinogenic is only a "suggestion" and that further study is needed. That study is then published in a professional journal and is reviewed by other experts in the same field. The process is called "Peer Review" and the results must always be the same when other researchers conduct the same experiments. If the results by other researchers come out differently than the original study, then the original conclusions are considered invalid and "further study" is needed.

Teflon does seem to be an irritant when overheated and could cause sensitive people big respiratory problems but when used normally, Teflon doesn't seem to be a problem. If someone did overheat a Teflon coated pan, I think they should throw it away since the chemical composition might have changed or the stuff might have loosened its grip on the pan. Just my thoughts, though...I wish Mythbusters would take this one on...

And Karin, I will say that my 9" cast iron skillet does get heavy at times, especially with the puny, short handle it has. Its just so well seasoned that I'd be nuts to get rid of it.

John

[Derek up North]

Mythbusters are fine TV entertainment but I wouldn't hang my hat on anything they broadcast in the name of ratings I'm more than happy to believe Dr. Joe Schwarcz, MCIC, Director of McGill University's Office for Science and Society. I don't know if any of you bothered to read his take on the subject I linked in post #5, but it's good enough for me. I love my T-Fal. <img data-cke-saved-src="http://toyotamotorhome.org/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png" src="http://toyotamotorhome.org/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png" class="bbc_emoticon" title=":)" />

[Totem]

As with all things when given a choice of solid or coated, solid is better and more expensive. It's amusing to me that studies prove that heating the PFOA releases gas.... And you are in a confined area. Saying "overheating" is a fancy word for using when my wife cooks. Trace the chemical and the money trail and it like most things goes back to lobbying industries that are insuring that studies don't happen and are unknown. Cancer in rats is good enough for me to heed. To each there own, I drink my coffee from ceramic, metal or glass cups for the same reason and my ice cube trays are antique frigidare aluminum also. My own "study" which is just an observation is plastic and petro based food containers and utensils are to be avoided in order make myself more like someone in the 1940s diet wise. Avoid the chems, avoid the spike in cancer.

[Derek up North]

OMG, aluminum ice cube trays?? Haven't you heard about the link between aluminum and ....!

[Totem]

and what? I use rolaids and deorderant also without fear. Fear of aluminum is illogical because it is present in everything including your drinking water whether from a well or the city. The build up of aluminum in the body is a symptom of a bigger problem; not the cause.

[Derek up North]

I'll just have to start cooking on a flat rock!

http://www.happycookingco.com/hidden-dangers.cfm