Gulfstream Greg Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 I was crawling under my rig today and noticed a label on the fuel tank. My tank is the optional OEM 26 gallon tank offered to Sunrader owners. The label has the manufacturers name on it, the capacity etc.. So a search on the internet and what do you know. STILL IN Business!!! Great news for me because I have some fuel gauge issues and I need the gaskets for the access ports on the top because they are leaking. So here is the web address Transfer Flow Fuel Tanks. I will contact them on Monday and get more information. Here is a pic of the label. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.D Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 It'll be interesting to hear what you find out. My Dolphin only has the 17.5 tank, and extra 8-10 gallons would be fantastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulfstream Greg Posted May 17, 2004 Author Share Posted May 17, 2004 The web site says nothing about Toyota's. Maybe they do not build them anymore for the toys. My tank hangs off the frame rails with some heavy duty brackets. I would think it would be easy to put one of these tanks in. Here is a pic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tika Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 Hi Greg and other Sunrader owners, I talked to the engineer (not just the receptionist) at TransferFlow about 3 weeks ago. Yes, they are still in business. I asked him if they could make me a larger capacity gas tank for my E-Z Ryder. The answer is, "Certainly -- and the minimum order is 20 tanks!" Well, I said, "Not yet, thanks." The reason for this minimum order is the engineering required. Each tank is specifically configured to match the underside of the vehicle according to where the other things are located under there. However, here's the good news for Sunrader owners: If there are at least 20 Sunrader owners that want to order larger tanks, then he said he would go to their stored files and pull their old plans for Sunrader tanks and they could be put into production again! Probable cost for a 26 gal. tank is in the range of about $500 - $700 each. Installation is on your own. That is about the same as AeroTanks' cost for a custom made one. Except with Aerotanks you have to go to their facility in Corona, CA for the install ($750 or so total). So, Greg, you might be able to get the parts you need. If any Sunrader owners want to band together for a group order of jumbo gas tanks, you can probably get some made up for you. You should just be sure that the ones he is making up are indeed a match for the particular year and model of Sunrader you have. If Dolphin/ Seabreeze owners or Warrior/ Itasca owners wanted to do this as well, TransferFlow might agree. (I wouldn't be surprised if they would want payment up front through.) Hope this helps. Tika Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulfstream Greg Posted May 17, 2004 Author Share Posted May 17, 2004 Tika Thanks for the info. I will give them a call today about my gauge and gaskets. I would think all the tanks would be the same for any Toy truck. The underside does not change due to the coach on the top. Possibly the fill spout? If you look on the bracket picture the dark area bottom center is actually gas that has keaked from the top of the tank and ran down the side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulfstream Greg Posted May 18, 2004 Author Share Posted May 18, 2004 Called the tank builder today. Got the same info Tika did, except I was told by the parts dept. that it would have to be a min of 10 tanks, he could have been wrong. Good news for me is that the bigger tank uses stock Toyota parts. IE the gaskets, level sending unit and fuel pump. Going on a trip next weekend so hopefully the weekend after I will drop the tank. Not sure if there is a filter on the pickup tube. I think I will buy the stock sender and make sure it has full swing top to bottom. Right now I am finding that it will read full but when its on empty I can have as much as 10 to 12 gallons in the tank. Its been a guessing game. So even though they were the originak manufacturer of the larger tanks if you want a bigger tank you might have to have one built by someone else. Besides, its really only 10 gallons more than the stock tank. Rig two GI cans on the rear and you have that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.D Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 Called the tank builder today. Got the same info Tika did, except I was told by the parts dept. that it would have to be a min of 10 tanks, he could have been wrong.Good news for me is that the bigger tank uses stock Toyota parts. IE the gaskets, level sending unit and fuel pump. Going on a trip next weekend so hopefully the weekend after I will drop the tank. Not sure if there is a filter on the pickup tube. I think I will buy the stock sender and make sure it has full swing top to bottom. Right now I am finding that it will read full but when its on empty I can have as much as 10 to 12 gallons in the tank. Its been a guessing game. So even though they were the originak manufacturer of the larger tanks if you want a bigger tank you might have to have one built by someone else. Besides, its really only 10 gallons more than the stock tank. Rig two GI cans on the rear and you have that. I wonder if reads E simply because you've used 13-15 gallons, with my stock Toyota tank it reads right near E once I'm down 13 gallons and just below E when I'm down 15. Could it simply be that your tank is 6 or 7 inches deeper than the stock unit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulfstream Greg Posted May 18, 2004 Author Share Posted May 18, 2004 Once I get the sender out I will be able tp see what the travel is. The parts guy said that the resistor packs get corroded. Be a few weeks before I can pull it out. I suspect as you say, the tank is deeper and the float does not reach the bottom. Might have to work it over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTRDLNCN Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 JC whitney has large capacity 25gallon tanks for the Toyota pickups,,however they are $750.. For that much I think I would rig up a second 10-14 gal tank and dual tank switch for less money and to better balance the weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulfstream Greg Posted July 13, 2004 Author Share Posted July 13, 2004 Question, where would you locate the extra tank? Putting it on the other side would create filling problems as not all gas pump lines are long enough to reach the other side. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTRDLNCN Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 There seems to be plenty of room under mine to put it on either side so long as I keep it around 10 gallons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Lovern Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 JC whitney has large capacity 25gallon tanks for the Toyota pickups They won't fit Toyota motorhomes, according to this poster on the Yahoo toyota_motorhomes group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/toyota-campers/message/30145 Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Lovern Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Besides, its really only 10 gallons more than the stock tank. Rig two GI cans on the rear and you have that. Very dangerous on an RV, according to posters on RV.net, due to the flames from propane devices: http://rv.net/forum/Index.cfm/fuseaction/t...30.cfm#14097830 One of them likened it to "a fused bomb ready to blow anytime". Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Lovern Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 I think I would rig up a second 10-14 gal tank and dual tank switch for less money and to better balance the weight. Northwest Metal Products used to do that, but stopped because the tanks were breaking loose. They found that the reason the tanks were breaking loose was because the frames were flexing too much. Here's my email to them and their reply: Hi Greg, Sorry to say that we can't make a tank that will fit your motorhome. While there is enough room there isn't a good place to bolt the tank in. In the past we made a tank for the Toyota MH but found that the frame flexed too much causing the tank to break loose. Not too desirable. We decided it was safer to not do these anymore. Sorry we can't help you. Thank you for contacting us. Sharon www.nwmp.com http://stores.ebay.com/id=116560883?rifid=store ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Lovern" To: <sales@nwmp.com> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 1:52 AM Subject: Tank for '90 Toyota Motorhome > Hello Northwest Metal Products, > > Do you have or can you make a replacement or auxiliary gas tank for a 22' > motorhome based on a 1990 Toyota pickup? > > I noted this product of yours: > "LWB, SWB & Extra Cab Pick-up 4 Wheel Drive 1989-1990" > > Will that one work with a 2 Wheel Drive? > > It looks like there is a lot of room behind the rear axle. The spare tire > is mounted outside, on top of the rear bumper. > > > Thanks, > > Greg > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Lovern Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Hi Greg and other Sunrader owners, I talked to the engineer (not just the receptionist) at TransferFlow about 3 weeks ago. Yes, they are still in business. I asked him if they could make me a larger capacity gas tank for my E-Z Ryder. The answer is, "Certainly -- and the minimum order is 20 tanks!" Well, I said, "Not yet, thanks." The reason for this minimum order is the engineering required. Each tank is specifically configured to match the underside of the vehicle according to where the other things are located under there. I'm beginning to think this is my only hope of increasing my Toy's range. I also tried a local shop that installs auxiliary tanks in motorhomes, but they said they couldn't do it to mine (I even had the Toy there and the owner of the shop even looked underneath). Unless vetoed by my wife, I could pay cash for 20 (or 10, per Turbo Greg's post) Transfer Flow tanks, store the other 19 (or 9) in my garage, then resell them to others at cost over time. But first I would need to know more about what others would fit a tank that would fit mine. I have a 1990 Odyssey. I don't see anything that would get in the wayof a bigger tank, but if some units have wider or narrower coach bodies, I could see that making a difference. Actually, I'm not sure about even that. I'm just going by memory; I can't check right now because it's at a shop having more seatbelts installed. In any case, I could (barring a wifely veto) buy 10 - 20 that would fit my 1990 Odyssey, then resell those. Does anyone here have any information on what other Toy makes and years would and wouldn't fit a tank that would fit my 1990 Odyssey? BTW I'll be away for a few weeks, I'll check in here when I get back.. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Lovern Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 ...if some units have wider or narrower coach bodies, I could see that making a difference. Actually, I'm not sure about even that. I'm just going by memory; I can't check right now because it's at a shop having more seatbelts installed. I was wrong about the width of the coach body having anything to do with it; the tank is inside the frame rail. I don't see how the coachbuilders would have been likely to have done anything to affect whether a larger tank would fit and how big the tank could be. I think a tank that fits a Sunrader of a given model year (or set of years) would fit an Odyssey, Dolphin, Travelmaster, Huntsman, Winnie, or any other Toyota motorhome of the same year (or set of years). BTW and OT: The seatbelts turned out great. It took me a little while to find someone who would add them. They were done by Airport Valley Vinyl of Tukwila, WA (near Seattle). It was Poulsbo RV in Kent, WA who suggested I ask them. We added seatbelts to each of the captain's chairs, and to each end of the sofabed (facing forward and facing rear -- for baby seats, not for adults). Now we have three places we can put our baby, who still needs to face toward the rear, instead of just one. He likes to be near my wife, but she doesn't like to drive. Until now, he would fuss when I drove, even if Barbra sat on the front of the sofa, leaned in toward him, and talked to him. Now they can be in the captain's chairs facing each other, or he can be on the front end of the sofa, facing her in the middle of the sofa. When he's big enough to face toward the front, we'll have two additional places we can put him. I anticipate some happier travelling. Knowing my wife, she'll even be able to nurse him like that (she's amazing in that regard). Back on topic: Again, we'll be gone for a few weeks, so I'll check back in on this thread when I get back.. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulfstream Greg Posted July 21, 2004 Author Share Posted July 21, 2004 I was wrong about the width of the coach body having anything to do with it; the tank is inside the frame rail. I don't see how the coachbuilders would have been likely to have done anything to affect whether a larger tank would fit and how big the tank could be. I think a tank that fits a Sunrader of a given model year (or set of years) would fit an Odyssey, Dolphin, Travelmaster, Huntsman, Winnie, or any other Toyota motorhome of the same year (or set of years). BTW and OT: The seatbelts turned out great. It took me a little while to find someone who would add them. They were done by Airport Valley Vinyl of Tukwila, WA (near Seattle). It was Poulsbo RV in Kent, WA who suggested I ask them. We added seatbelts to each of the captain's chairs, and to each end of the sofabed (facing forward and facing rear -- for baby seats, not for adults). Now we have three places we can put our baby, who still needs to face toward the rear, instead of just one. He likes to be near my wife, but she doesn't like to drive. Until now, he would fuss when I drove, even if Barbra sat on the front of the sofa, leaned in toward him, and talked to him. Now they can be in the captain's chairs facing each other, or he can be on the front end of the sofa, facing her in the middle of the sofa. When he's big enough to face toward the front, we'll have two additional places we can put him. I anticipate some happier travelling. Knowing my wife, she'll even be able to nurse him like that (she's amazing in that regard). Back on topic: Again, we'll be gone for a few weeks, so I'll check back in on this thread when I get back.. Greg I think my 26 gallon tank would fit any toy truck of the same year range. As for the frame flexing and breaking the tanks or falling out that seems not true for the sunrader tanks. My tank is bolted to two large welded a frame brackets which are attatched to the side of the frame. I will get a photo and post it. Sunrader offered the larger tanks for all sizes of ite MH's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greybeard LTD Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 I assume this thread is dead. That said, was there ever any resolution to the question of larger replacement tanks? I have a 1990 Odyssey with a 17 gallon tank, it also has a 20 gallon custom made tank for the generator. I plan a "transfer pump" system to extend my range, but would prefer to install a larger main tank. I've seen some larger tanks advertised by Brown Davis in Australia: http://www.longrange...tankmodels.html Because they have different models than we here in the US, I have sent them a inquiry and will share the response. In the meantime, is there any current information out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greybeard LTD Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 After e-mailing Brown-Davis three times, I have gotten no reply. Therefore I assume they no longer produce larger fuel tanks for Toyota. I'll keep looking for a solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budwyzer Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 please keep trying, I have a '93 dolphin and would love a range longer than 210 miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorback Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 Any idea where to get a stock tank for a 1986 toyota Sunrader? Please advise I have a huge leaking problem. jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 Spectra Premium makes tanks for the Toyota pickup. You can't buy from them direct, but I believe places like Autozone, Advance and NAPA can get their parts. Also EBay. http://ecat.spectrapremium.com/apps/ecat/mainfile.php?vehicle_id=1277412&model=PICKUP&year=1986&make=TOYOTA&splash=false&action=search_by_vehicle&module=product_catalog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulfstream Greg Posted June 21, 2010 Author Share Posted June 21, 2010 Any idea where to get a stock tank for a 1986 toyota Sunrader? Please advise I have a huge leaking problem. jamie A stock tank for a sunrader would be a stock tank for that year pickup, available at local wreckers that have toy trucks. Where is the leak? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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