extech Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 might be g kinda blind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extech Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 need omesb5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamkid Posted December 6, 2022 Author Share Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) So went and purchased the ARB bushings that go with the leaf springs and they fit into the leaf springs, now the bushing sleeve won’t fit the hardware and the old bushing sleeve won’t fit into the new bushings. Should I buy new hardware or install without the sleeve? Edited December 6, 2022 by hamkid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WME Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Your 2nd photo looks right. You are assuming that what you removed is OEM, but it is equally possible that it is the wrong part installed by a PO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamkid Posted December 7, 2022 Author Share Posted December 7, 2022 The second photo is the bushing fitted without the sleeve. What happens if you install the spring without the sleeve? Yes, I am assuming I removed the oem springs with original bushings and sleeves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extech Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 i've never seen that sleeve on leaf springs. look like for control arm bushings. my old springs had no sleeve and i put it back that way since i had no sleeves and they wouldn't fit anyhow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WME Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) Set all the pieces side by side take a photo and send it to ARB. The reason for PO abuse comment is how loose the original bushing sleeve would be on the original bolt Also the teeth on the ends of original bushing sleeve look like it's from a control arm bushing. Edited December 7, 2022 by WME Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamkid Posted December 7, 2022 Author Share Posted December 7, 2022 You might be right about the bushing being for the control arm now that I think about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Picture of the original part. No sleeve in sight. Just the bolt you show and the bushings Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamkid Posted December 7, 2022 Author Share Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) Awesome! Any suggestions for what kind of grease to use? Edited December 7, 2022 by hamkid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WME Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) They make a special grease for poly bushings... https://www.amazon.com/Energy-Suspension-9-11110-Pack-Formula/dp/B000N5Z408/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=polyurethane+bushing+grease&qid=1670388869&sr=8-5 Suitable substitute. Outboard lower unit grease aka " whale snot", it's very water proof Edited December 7, 2022 by WME Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hamkid Posted December 15, 2022 Author Share Posted December 15, 2022 The pin doesn’t have enough room to go in because of the propane tank. Can the pin be removed from the plate? I don’t remember how I got this side off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extech Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 you can't take the pin off, but it came out of the mount- it'll go back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamkid Posted December 15, 2022 Author Share Posted December 15, 2022 With the bushings on it seems like there is no angle it will go in at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extech Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 will the bushing fit through the big hole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpanzar Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 i had the same problem. i ended up dropping the tank. i think the new bushings are to stiff for an easy installation angle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamkid Posted December 15, 2022 Author Share Posted December 15, 2022 I could have sworn I got that pin off of the plate. I’m pretty sure I had them apart at one time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpanzar Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 you may be doing it this way already, but you may have more wiggle room if you start with that pin side first without having the shackle side installed or hanging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpanzar Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 regarding the pin separation from the small plate, i am almost positive that is intended to be a single monolithic part. otherwise it would introduce play in the assembly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 I think we need to see how your propane tank is installed. Your old bushings might have been so bad that you could angle it enough but not with the new ones. You need to figure out how to move the tank at least a little for more room. Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamkid Posted December 15, 2022 Author Share Posted December 15, 2022 (edited) I tried to install with it attached to the shackle side first already. I’m trying the pin side first now. Edited December 15, 2022 by hamkid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamkid Posted January 7, 2023 Author Share Posted January 7, 2023 The plate and pin separates from each other. That’s how I removed the spring before. I had to install the front of the leaf spring first while holding the spring at a 45 degree angle while I wiggled the pin in with the plate away from the hole. I was using a floor jack to balance the spring and adjust when needed. Used a bunch of sil glyd to get it on easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WME Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 It amazing what you can do with a BFH.😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamkid Posted January 14, 2023 Author Share Posted January 14, 2023 Both sides are on! Is there anything I need to do before I tighten them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineJed Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Well done, very clean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 I totally agree. You have gone from a determined novice and have completed a huge number of accomplishments. All with excellent pictures to help others in the future. I'm very impressed and glad to have you here. Thank you so much. Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewanderlustking Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 On 1/13/2023 at 7:48 PM, hamkid said: Both sides are on! Is there anything I need to do before I tighten them? In general, you should put the wheels on and set it on the ground in rest state, before tightening suspension components. I don't think anything in the back on one of these though would make a difference. This is more for suspension components like control arms with bushings. Old Man Emu's website would likely have some more instructions and detailed installation advice. If I am not mistaken, you used their springs too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamkid Posted January 15, 2023 Author Share Posted January 15, 2023 Thanks Linda and everyone on here for all the support! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hamkid Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 So I am attempting to lower the differential onto the leaf springs. When I am doing that should I disconnect the drive shaft? As I am lowering the differential the drive shaft is going very low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extech Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 go ahead. it will work ok. just did this myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamkid Posted February 6, 2023 Author Share Posted February 6, 2023 Got them on. Does the torque spec change for the U-bolts since they are not stock leaf springs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extech Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 torque is related to bolt size , thread and hardness only. what they hold is immaterial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamkid Posted February 6, 2023 Author Share Posted February 6, 2023 Got it. Is it a problem if I reuse the U-bolts and hardware? I was reading it is recommended to install all new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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