Sunrader111 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Hi all, hoping someone can help. I have a 1984 18' Sunrader with really saggy springs, 5 lug dually/foolies and a slow leaking inner dually. I'm exploring best options... can anyone tell me: 1, Would a 1986-1988 proper 6 lug / 1 ton axle off a Toyota Sun Breeze fit my 1984 rig? 2, Would the leaf springs on the 1 ton Sun Breeze axle fit/line up with my 1984 rig? 3, Anybody know the ratio of this 1984 1/2 ton axle on my automatic trans, 22R Sunrader? 4, Would I expect issues with the parking brake if I'm to swap out the axle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Yes the axle will fit. If it's a 1986 you need to know the driver side rear wheel have left hand lugs. You need the wheels too to fit the hubs. Any other year they are normal. Springs should fit an 84. Your current axle is probably a 3.9 ratio, the new one will be 4.10. Better anyway. Some have mentioned needing emergency brake cable but many others have said it fit. I don't know Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totem Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 be prepared to get proper leaf springs, you will need new ubolts, custom made shock mount plate brackets also to fit larger axle tube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunrader111 Posted April 9, 2018 Author Share Posted April 9, 2018 I guess the best option would be to source the axle WITH the shock mount plate included and possibly the leaf springs too - get the whole thing, axle, springs and hubs ? I'm also looking into the option of brand new 3/2 (5 leaf) springs, U bolts and shocks (about $600). Would a 1 ton axle off a 89-92 Toyota fit my 1984? Not too many options at the wreckers yards... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totem Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) the "not too many options" experience unfortunately begins with learning you will not be finding said shock mount plate brackets and Ubolts. most shops cut those off and sell them to forges to make things out of (leaf springs) and also you will want new leafs anyway, because OEMs were not designed for the camper weight and will be old and flat also. Shy of finding a rig or truck that has everything already and scavenging it; you will be needing to have the plates and Ubolts fabricated. Get luck and find some, they will usually get destroyed if removed from years of rust. if you found an axle off of 89-92 thats perfect IMHO. your mech should be able to make it work. Edited April 9, 2018 by Totem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 So this ad was posted a while ago but just refreshed yesterday. Looks like he has everything you need. Close https://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/pts/d/toyota-pickup-1-ton-stake-bed/6531292950.html Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunrader111 Posted April 9, 2018 Author Share Posted April 9, 2018 Wow thanks, really appreciate that but sadly the list is whats sold :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Worth checking. The way I read it, only the flatbed might already be sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred heath Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Derek up North said: Worth checking. The way I read it, only the flatbed might already be sold. I agree. Worth a call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunrader111 Posted April 9, 2018 Author Share Posted April 9, 2018 Confirmed - Sold. Got the blood rushing for a moment though ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred heath Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Have you weighed the back 1/2 of your rig? If it’s under 3,600 lbs you could get away running single tires with a non Toyota rear axle. A good shop will be able to modify your spring plates and relocate spring perch’s to make it work. They key here is how much weight your carrying on the rear axle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Sunrader111 said: Confirmed - Sold. Got the blood rushing for a moment though ;-) Hey how about this one. Just posted 3 days ago. Can't tell if all the rear axle parts are there but again worth trying. habla espanol? https://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cto/d/1987-toyota-dually-parts/6553887669.html Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 California mini truck site says they have an axle http://www.calminitruck.com/ Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunrader111 Posted April 12, 2018 Author Share Posted April 12, 2018 I've found a 6 lug rear axle with wheels!! Also have the opportunity to get the front 6 lug wheels/hubs/calipers etc. Any cons to swapping out the front wheels?? I haven't looked into this but I'd imaging it's relatively simple - would the master brake need to be upgraded too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda s Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Upgrading the front is always a plus. Wheels will match front and back so no worries about brining an extra spare tire. Totem upgraded his front. He would be able to give you more info. Linda S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulfstream Greg Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 What about the drive line, will they just bolt up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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