Freddy

Oh- also note the mounting tab on the left has been snipped to fit closer to edge-

Hi! I randomly saw this old post and tho I'd imagine u r past this point, I have the dimensions of my box that the "captain's" chairs sit on- stock for my rear entry rear kitchen/bath- I measured 'cause I took chairs out for remodel/insulation. 14"high, 22.5" deep, 88" long with my fridge next to one chair. Chairs on swivels, set at very edge of box (see pic) 18" from outside edges, 17" from table hole ( I have the funny octagonal number.) I'm quite interested to see more photos of your project!

Your spring shackles may be aftermarket tho? P.S. I want to link you to "New Owner maintenance Checklist" thread here.... dunno how? I'm new to this forum format so I just copied and pasted... Diff members have diff preferences on some things but all advice seems tested. Again, I'm just beginning myself. I'm sure I'll get some corrective guidance on this copying thing (sorry?!) but I've had an interesting time searching topics, with diff results diff times... Seems there might be a place for "Stickies" containing Newbie FAQs... docforster Newbie Members 4 posts My Toyota Motorhome: 1987 Odyssey Location: Austin, TX Posted January 27, 2015 May I suggest a sticky with a list of ‘mechanical’ things to be checked or replaced outright when getting a used Toy. (I’m not including camper items / appliances, etc). It would be nice if it could also serve as a quick reference / resource list for the more common maintenance requirements. The forum contains a wealth of information, but being a new Toy owner, it is a little daunting trying to get info on simpler items, while wishing to avoid being a nuisance ‘duplicate’ poster with previously addressed questions. After trawling for a few hrs, this is a list I have made. I will endeavor to make it a ‘living’ document by adding any suggestions / recommendations / omissions FLUIDS: Replace all fluids - Flush coolant system. When selecting a coolant...stick with the GOOD STUFF - Transmission: If you drained it and let it set, the converter will slowly drain into the pan until it gets below the bottom of the front pump. There is a lot of oil hiding in there. The dry fill is somewhere around 9 qts. One recommendation is to drain and fill 3 x, drain and fill and drive around and then drain and fill. - Change the engine oil. Mineral oil: recommendation: Shell Rotella 15W-40 - T Triple Protection (high ZDDP additive package for metal-wear protection). Mixed response on Synthetics. - Oil Filter Replacement: Filters for Toyota trucks come in at least three size ranges. Standard is 2.9" OD by 3.4" high. Next is 3.6": OD by 5.1"high, and then there is a two-quart version that is 3.6"OD by 7" high. Amsoil published a lot of tests about their filters, the Amsoil "always won" but Mobile 1 and Hastings finished 2nd or 3rd depending on the test. Amsoil now sells Hastings as a cost saver filter. If you do a lot of start and stop type driving, then a high quality stock sized filter is your choice. If you spend more time driving then a larger one (middle sized) is the ticket as the larger size lets the oil flow through filter medium slower. Plus there is a small cooling effect due to the larger housing. - Change the air filter. To avoid mice, try using hardware cloth. Plastic screen is restrictive to air flow. Mice can't chew through ¼” hardware cloth. http://www.oreillyau...C0068&ppt=C0009 Shoes: 10” X 2 3/16 (254 mm X 56 mm) CENTRIC 11105230, CARLSON Part # A523, BENDIX Part # RS523, WAGNER Part # PAB523, NAPA TS523 O’Reilly's carries a shoe that will fit. http://www.oreillyau...03353&ppt=C0068 Hold-down kit: BENDIX Part # H7215DP, RAYBESTOS Part # H171332, AUTOSPECIALTY / KELSEY-HAYES Part # HK2209, ACDELCO Part # 18K628, WAGNER Part # H17133, NAPA UP 2273 Wheel cylinder: 7/8” bore BENDIX Part # 33919, RAYBESTOS Part # WC37654, AMERICAN REMANUFACTURERS INC. Part # 78422707, ACDELCO Part # 18E244, WAGNER Part # WC110923, DORMAN Part # W37654, AUTOSPECIALTY / KELSEY-HAYES Part # W56707, NAPA ATM P9466 Outer wheel-axle-seal: 1.625” OD , 1.35” shaft size, .35” wide L & S AUTOMOTIVE PRODUCTS Part # 7113911, BECK/ARNLEY Part # 0523184, NATIONAL Part # 710076, TIMKEN Part # 710076, SKF Part # 13911, VICTOR REINZ Part # 66527, NAPA NOS 13911 Inner wheel seal: 3.35” OD, 2.4” shaft size, .31” thick. BECK/ARNLEY Part # 0522680, L & S AUTOMOTIVE PRODUCTS Part # 7124635 , PRECISION AUTOMOTIVE Part # 226285, NATIONAL Part # 226285, SKF Part # 24635, TIMKEN Part # 226285, NAPA ATM 2117203 , NAPA NOS 24635 Proper length hold-down pins: 2 1/8” NAPA UP 80706 BELTS/HOSES: - Change all belts. - Replace the hoses, especially the "hidden" hose under the alternator - Vacuum Hoses: There is a kit for the 22RE. http://www.lceperfor...k-p/1072442.htm You don't need everything it comes with. Majority of the vacuum hose is 3mm. Buy something 12ft of 3mm vacuum hose. The 3mm fits snug and the silicone is a nice upgrade. http://www.summitrac...terial/silicone Alternatively http://www.amazon.co...e/dp/B009PYDPRM A lot of the major parts stores have it also Attached Files Timing belt replacement chart.pdf 482.92KB TIRES: Front at 40 and the rear at 45 psi. Much discussion on this Learn about tire size and load range also to make sure they are the right tires Learn to read a DOT date code http://www.tirebuyer...es#.VMge2y6M63I Recent thread on tires: http://toyotamotorhome.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=7398 Metric tire sizes with the missing "middle" number have been around since the late 1950s. When that middle number is left out - it means it's an "82 % height to width" ratio. If the tire were an 185/75-14" instead - it would have a "75%" aspect ratio. 185R-14"C means 82%. Toyota cab & chassis rigs sold to RV makers for use as motorhomes with dual rear wheels call for 185R-14" C tires with a minimum of a 6 ply rating for the rear. For the front Toyota calls for 185R-14" C tires with an 8 ply rating. RV makers can call for something even better, but not worse to meet Toyota standards. OTHER See if you have a transmission cooler if you have an automatic tranny Check the furnace and a/c unit Clean and straighten radiator fins, you will be surprised how much junk accumulates there RV salvage yard search engine http://car-part.com/ Quote Bob C One of God's children Toyota Advanced Member 1,091 posts Gender:Male Interests:I enjoy kayaking, canoeing, camping, hunting, my Goldwing, spending time with my family. My Toyota Motorhome: 1988 Escaper, 4 cyl, auto, bought 08-16-2011, 33,000 miles when we bought it, 68,000 now and enjoying it. Sold summer 2018. Location: Baraboo, WI Posted January 27, 2015 Don't forget to check spark plugs, wires, and distributer. I would also check the battery isolator, install heavier wires from isolator to rear battery, check coach ground, make sure that there are circuit breakers at both ends of the wire to the rear battery. I installed an inexpensive volt meter that reads the voltage to the rear battery. I had problems with my isolator and now I can keep track of the output of my alternator, is the isolator working ok and it gives me an idea of how much coach battery charge is used overnight. Quote shibs Over 200 Posts! Toyota Advanced Member 457 posts Gender:Male Posted January 27, 2015 I have a 90 and it has been stored outside always. I had an 88 mazda couple that drove like new. I will add my 2.5 cents here, take it for what it is worth 2.5 cents. 1. Engine Oil: I use a 10w30 synthetic oil, the engine manual calls for 10w30, I think the engineers at Toyota are smarter than me. 2. Brake fluid and if you have a clutch, clutch fluid needs to be flushed - brake fluid is hygroscopic and this needs to be done every 3-5 years. 3. Mine had mice damage to plug wires and they were change. Change plugs if in doubt and get some NGKs or what ever manual suggests. 4. a/c system uses the old coolant so if it does not work right has to be retro fitted. 5. Transmission - if in double drain and fill 3 x, drain and fill and drive around and then drain and fill....repeat once more. 6. Rear Differential - drain and fill with synthetic gear oil of the correct weight recommended by owner's manual 7. Steering fluid - suction out steering fluid (if in doubt) from reservoir and refill. 8. Engine Oil filter - any cheap filter is fine, if you are in love with the toyo and swing by your local Mobil 1 dealer and get a case of their filter. Cheaper from Mobil 1 dealer. 9. Inspect all vacuum hoses as they could fail with age. 10 Same for radiator hoses, inspect them for cracks. You can buy Toyota oem for a few dollars more at dealer or ebay. 11. Clean and straighten radiator fins, you will be surprised how much junk accumulates there. Quote jjrbus Semper Fi Toyota Advanced Member 2,379 posts Gender:Male My Toyota Motorhome: 94 Seabreeze 6 auto Location: Ft Myers FL Posted January 27, 2015 TIRES!! Learn to read a DOT date code. The coach I just bought had great looking tires, lots of thread and only 1 tire had some very minor weather checking. 4 of the the tires are 14 years old! I had one blowout on the way home. http://www.tirebuyer.com/education/how-to-determine-the-age-of-your-tires#.VMge2y6M63I There is some controversy weather a tire is good for 6 or 10 years, me personally 7 years max. I also had a flipper in Tampa tell me a coach had new tires, they were 6 years old with tire shine on them. Learn about tire size and load range also to make sure they are the right tires! HTH JIm SW FL

Hi again! Me also excited Newbie-My dream a 4x4 conversion as well- starting with external safety- springs, shocks, driveline, LIGHTS (I'm SOOOo excited, coming soon- report to follow) any other priorities others suggest... then interior livability and insulation did alternator, radiator flush as needed with that, plugs (my wires were new looking..) Looking at ur pics those look like original springs to me, flat looking and old looking- but ask others? here's a photo of my old vs. the just installed- P.S. if you want any specific info I've spent HOURS perusing different topics here, making folders of bookmarks, threads of this forum, and would be pleased to share so you don't have to-

I say congratulations! I waited and searched long time each time, as you know these don't turn over much, & I paid more for each of mine! I'm planning on gutting also, & there is SO much information here! My first one I pretty much just drove as was, sold for truck camper- uncomfortable! So happy to be working on a Sunrader again. Yours looks better than many on the interior! Do you have maintenance records from seller?? Very helpful if so. I just installed new leaf springs & am waiting on shocks, which I'd imagine you might want to look into as well unless done prior. It does look high in back, so perhaps done? You can get that engine purring! Whoopie Jopacabra!

Hello all! I figured how to Post! I've been reading around here for some months and want to thank everyone for their posts- I've learned SO much! Newbie, 1986 Sunrader 21' RBK, gonna gut it but keep RKB. Wanna make insulated ski rig!- advice? Ok- I replaced leaf springs with OME CS10's, & looks like original length shocks would still work so I'm waiting for Bilstein's - as I have credit at 4WP and they do not carry KYB's. This made my decision, tho I understand many here prefer KYB's? SO MUCH INFORMATION, "My brain is full!" remember that Gary Larson cartoon? My QUESTION today- when installing the leaf springs we undid the driveline, and noted that there is no spline and yoke at the rear section? Only spline at the transmission. Unless invisibly inside rear? The driveline shop did not think so, and I'm probably going to order a new rear section with yoke and spline, as well as carrier bearing- unless someone tells me why not to? anyone else experienced with this? THANKS! -Freddy

Thanks Kevin!

Hi again from a different angle! did u use this bushing kit? work ok?? thx

Yah, rabbit hole explored as best I can! (Like a year) Thx VERY MUCH for ur response to my first ever post ANYwhere! I'm so nervous to attack all this! Yet I cannot afford a Sprinter, and I like a wider ride for me & my dog! & all my ski & cooking stuff... ARB CS20R's vs. 10's is the first, biggest decision. Ordered 10's. I like reserving the additional leaf idea! My fiberglass needs help... I do have airbags, prolly stock. Looked at "ZUK mod" as referenced by WME, my (MUCH more experienced mechanic) assistant sez wait...? But seems now is time for such? I do want weight capability- batteries, solar, boondook water, cast iron cookware, outdoor stuff! summer-removable wood stove midship.... but not to mess up my NEW refrigerator- coming soon... Mostly road travel but lotsa - indeed SPECIFICALLY!- snow/ice and some few specific rocky areas in mind.... if anyone has more input!? The steep drive has messed up both this and my previous Sunrader's (1985 210RD) step & bumper... besides springs & front adjustment I'm gonna get the little wheels AtlantaCamper installed & check tank outlet... BTW- 195 R14tire update for all interested- (HOW POST THIS?!!)I have 195 r-14's that r ok for a year or so hopefully but I and friend did much research (185-205's, all manufacturers we could find?)- not much budget besides Hankook- how r they doing, every/anyone? I learned from a really nice guy at my Costco that Michelin stopped their 195/r14 option and I found -only USA is Goodyear Wrangler AT @ $233 ea, = $1400/6 !! (I have and will keep duallies) I like the look of the tread pattern online, does anyone have these?... Oregon rain and snow... later -next year- the snow tire SUPER TRAXION referenced in this forum by mpanzer, I think? Am asking my RV guy to keep eye our for lots of used items such as in/(on?)-board controlled air system for air bags, roof a/c, small stove hood vent, tank/power control panel.. very grateful for all the info here! P.S. akwcanoe- I miss & grew up canoeing, riding horses - Fred Heath- I was born in Raleigh, Dad prof, gonna drive the rig there someday- um, just a reach here, Sadlack's? mpanzar- Seattle, PDX... Skydancer- contra, OT... missing jams

Hello fellow ToyHome owners! I'm finally gonna work on my rig! Stripping insides out to shell... But first!-I've been pouring over the suspension threads here repeatedly, and have just ordered ARB (Old Man Emu) CS010 springs, bushings, and OME greaseable shackles. I may also get sway-away torsion bars... It was very hard to decide on the CS10's vs. 20's, as I plan to put in a battery pack for solar, carry water for boon docking... I don't want a hard hard ride tho... I want to THANK Yippeekayaa, akwcanoe, WME, AtlantaCamper and mpanzar for all the detailed discussion and photographs. I'll post some some soon. Linda- THANK YOU for moderating this forum. It is full of vital info for both newbies like myself and, I'm sure, for everyone! Also - I hope this is ok to post this here?! &.... no one has used the CS020's? thanx! "Freddy"