paulnptld Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Can anyone tell me where the air filter and gas filters are on a 1990 V6? I was at an oil change place a few weeks ago and they were clueless. Also, has anyone used this K&N filter? Any performance gains? http://www.amazon.com/33-2050-1-High-Performance-Replacement-Filter/dp/B000BR3BEY/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1389130898&sr=8-3&keywords=toyota+air+filter+1990+pickup Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Call me skeptical. Their own ad show a MAXIMUM of ~2HP increase at ONE particular RPM and the results of ONE test. Since it was their choice, I don't think I'm going too much out on a limb saying that this was the BEST they could do and that the others were worse. There are also many who say that the K&N filters allow more dirt through than a genuine Toyota filter. I don't recall seeing any scientific test results published. http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/Automotive/brands/dyno_big._V365352488_.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MontanaChinook Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 http://www.yotatech.com/f120/where-my-fuel-filter-located-1990-toyota-178725/ "1990 toyota 3.0 fuel filter location" in google image search. Many photos. I wouldn't let those guys touch the truck again if it were me... I used a K&N for awhile. Figured if nothing else, maybe never having to replace the filter again, only clean it, was worth it. I noticed no hp gain, and as I bought new trucks, I eventually stopped buying those filters. It's not a straight up gimmick, but it IS just another one of those many things to throw money at trying to squeeze a few more horsepower out of an engine that just doesn't have it. IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MontanaChinook Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I refuse to believe they couldn't find the air filter... Do the same google search as for fuel, but with air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maineah Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 The stock air filter all ready flows far more air than the engine can use and it does a much better job of filtering. If you like noise they are noisier. Maybe sound equates to performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maineah Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I refuse to believe they couldn't find the air filter... Do the same google search as for fuel, but with air. Yeah really, the fuel filter well they are really good at hiding them but the air filter pretty much is there for all to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulnptld Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 Thanks. I was guessing that the K&M claims were overbaked. If it's true that they let more dirt pass, then I'll stick with stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanman Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 On my '91 the gas filter is on the frame under the passenger side door, just follow the gas line from the tank to the motor, it's got to be in between. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MontanaChinook Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Yeah really, the fuel filter well they are really good at hiding them but the air filter pretty much is there for all to see. I know. I don't expect the oil change guys to be mechanics, really. But still... This is why I would never trust them to change my oil. The lifeblood of my truck...Such a simple thing to do, such dire consequences if it's not done right... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skydancer2992 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 From thermodynamics, cold intake air is the best for performance. The stock system has an intake from behind a headlight. The K&M installation looks like it takes air from the engine compartment. The stock system seems like it would have an advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanAatTheCape Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 if you look up a vp toyota pickup you will find that your v6 uses the same oil/gas filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skydancer2992 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 if you look up a vp toyota pickup you will find that your v6 uses the same oil/gas filters However, a 22RE fuel filter will not fit on the V6 fuel line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanAatTheCape Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 I thought you had a v6. Bet the pickup for year & engine's fuel filter will fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MontanaChinook Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 I'm confused...what are we talking about now? And what's a vp toyota? I don't think the issue is motorhome vs regular pickup. We all know that our drivetrain is no different than any other toyota pickup. The issue, explained in the first post, is that the oil change people didn't know where to find either of them. My guess is that they would have had the same issue even if it wasn't a motorhome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiter Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Zach - I had my oil changed once at Walmart in Fairbanks Alaska. three months later when I changed the oil, I discovered they did not change the filter. I suspect they could not find it. Its tucked up under the intake manifold and very difficult to get at or see.JOhn Mc 88 Dolphin 4 Auto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MontanaChinook Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 It still shocks me that they wouldn't know. Or maybe it doesn't...and that's why I don't ever go to those places, unless I'm on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skydancer2992 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I do have a V6 but wrongly assumed that the same year 22RE filter would fit. I pulled my old filter which actually looked almost new. The new filter would not screw into place because of different size threads. Smaller, as I recall. Put the old filter back in place and ordered a couple of fuel filters from U-haul Ebay. At least they don't carry incompatible 22RE parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stamar Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Its the single most common size of oil filter on earth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunce Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Will a cold air intake add any additional engine noise? When I put an intake system on my old honda accord the engine sound increased dramatically. Don't want my Toy to get noisey when I roll in late at night to the campground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek up North Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I'd say probably yes and for negligible performance improvement and quite possibly poorer filtration. If you look at results, they're not much in terms of power gain especially if you look at the sort of engine speeds we typically run while cruising. Looks like 1-2hp better. http://toyota.off-road.com/aimages/articlestandard/toyota/352007/453963/dyno.jpg So maybe 1-2% better fuel economy? Agreed, any improvement is welcome but reducing your cruising speed by 1mph might give you as much (or more)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee & Joan Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 On the 22R engines one can put a much larger capacity filter (from I think a Ford) that screws right in Purolator PL30001 or L30001. It is a common filter in other brands. I used a K&N airfilter on my off road bike for awhile, it cost me three overhauls until I wised up. Took out the Stainless Steel intake valves while leaving the exhaust valve alone. In the end it so clogged up it would not pass air. I used K&N cleaner and oil. They work just great if you have no dirt... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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