Ladybug Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Hello all. I'm new to this board and desperate! My husband and I have had an 88 Toyota Seabreeze since 1996 and have way more money into it than I even want to think about. The only way to get anywhere near our money's worth is to use it. We are picky with it and it is very nice on the inside. I became unemployed 2 years ago, just after we relicensed the motor home for 2 years. We haven't been out in it for two years but kept it "healthy" or so we thought. I have found some temporary work at about half the wage I used to make but am very grateful for the work. So now we decided that before the license ran out on it this November that we wanted to take it out. We tuned it up, checked everything out and everything seemed to be perfect, sanitized the fresh water tank. We were excited. Tonight, we were getting it ready to take it out for a few days but I noticed after adding water that the water pump would run intermittently. That usually means a leak somewhere, usually in the past it has been minor (water tank plug not tight enough for instance). My husband shrugged it off as air in the lines. But I was suspicious and followed my gut feeling and decided to check it out one more time after spending the evening loading it up. What I discovered was I could hear a dripping sound that sounded like it was in the wall between the shower and the kitchen. Our model has a rear bath with separate shower. We haven't used it in years as it is easier to use that area for storage. When we opened the plumbing door under the shower, we could see some dripping, which increased as we left the pressure on. My husband tried to check the shower faucets (several years ago we replaced seals) but you can't take the entire fitting off. There seems to be a pipe coming up for the shower head and we can't remove the plate. My husband removed a part of the lower wall to expose the area that was getting dripped on, but we can't find where the leak itself it is coming from. Our guess is that we either have a loose joint or the sealer may have given out, or possibly a cracked pipe. We never leave water in the pipes in the winter time and have never had trouble with that. Is there any way to get a schematic of that area to know where the pipes are? We would love to just cap off the shower somehow before it gets to the wall, but we are not exactly sure which pipe goes to the shower and don't want to affect the toilet or the bathroom sink. We could live without the bathroom sink if we had to, but not the toilet. We hate the thought of tearing into the wall (especially not knowing where the pipes are located), but feel like we have nothing to lose even if we screw it up. We really can't afford to take it anywhere right now and would like to learn it ourselves. Has anybody else had this problem and been able to cap off just the shower. If so, how can you figure out the correct pipe going to the shower? Thank you for any advice you can give. We may still take off in it for a day or so and just not use the water anymore than we have to. We can take an extra hose and just bring in water from outside through the window so we don't have to have the water pump on (or pressure from the outside water hookup), but that can get old real fast, especially if the weather is bad. I'm sure that will be no fun, but it is a way to get out in it. We are pretty disappointed, especially since everything else is working perfectly. Thank you for any ideas or help we can get. Our coach is National RV, which is, of course, out of businss now, or we'd call them. Anybody have a schematic showing where the water piping goes in that wall? I would also be concerned about the wiring, so we don't just want to start cutting. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiter Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Your SeaBreeze should be very similiar to my Dolphin. I replaced my shower faucet as it was also leaking. ALSO - We do not leave our water pump on. I don't have any leaks, but we only use the pump when necessary. http://toyotamotorhome.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=3837 John Mc 88 Dolphin 4 Auto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Toyota Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 waiter AS YOU AND I BOTH HAVE NATIONAL RV DOLPHONS ON MYN AT THE BACKSIDE OF THE WATER HEATER UNDER THE OVEN I THINK MAYBE SOME OF THOSE PIPES THERE GO UP INSIDE THE WALL TOO THE SHOWER. SOMTIMES YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO RATTLE THEM SHAK THEM AND SEE WHICH GOES UP IN THAT WALL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladybug Posted September 22, 2012 Author Share Posted September 22, 2012 Thank you guys. I saw the first fantastic reply last week while we were on the road, but when I replied, our laptop crashed and I lost my thank you post to you all. The post I was initially replying to was a lengthy one with pictures and I can't find it now. It is probably because I am unfamiliar with the way this board works or I may have it configured wrong. I wanted to print that email as it was very helpful and I wanted to have it for the futue. I also want to thank you all for your replies. We did take the MH out and enjoyed it immensely even without running water. It's been two years since we've been out in it and it was wonderful having it out again. We were able to use the water at our campsites with a hose going through the window to wash dishes. Just heated the water on the stove. Also took some spare buckets to rinse the toilet. Had a great time and we want to go out in it again if the weather doesn't turn bad too quickly out here. I have two more weeks of temp work and then maybe we can go out again. Love it! My husband found a great RV place to get parts and they even told him how to cap off the water to the shower head - the pipes that lead to it under the kitchen area. We decided to do this rather than cut into the wall. Our interior is so nice that I hate to cut into the wall to fix something we don't use all that often. We use the shower area more now for storage, so we will cut the pipes and cap them off and hopefully they won't leak. I guess there is a way to reverse it if we ever do want to fix it to use it. I would have loved to refind that post with the pictures and step by step instructions of going through the wall, but I can't seem to pull it up. I'm sorry I took so long to reply. Like I said, our computer crashed on the road, and then this week has been exhausting so I wasn't able to deal with being on the computer at night after being on it all day at work. Thank you so much. It is so nice to find other Toyoto MH owners and fans! Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladybug Posted September 22, 2012 Author Share Posted September 22, 2012 Just a quick update - I did find the post with pictures I was looking for. It was under another topic. Thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiter Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Are you referring to this post: http://toyotamotorhome.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=3837 ALSO - If your not using the shower as a shower, how about as a walk in closet?? http://toyotamotorhome.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=3598 John Mc 88 Dolphin 4 Auto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladybug Posted September 24, 2012 Author Share Posted September 24, 2012 Yes, that was the topic. I printed it. There was another person who replied that said his pipes went up from under the kitchen - sorry, it's been a long day so I can't remember just now, but it does sound EXACTLY like ours. Yup, National RV. I am so thankful for all the help and suggestions from you all. We don't feel so alone now having a Toyota MH. Oh, and my husband did cap it off according to instructions from a local RV dealership here, and it works perfectly! Thank you all so very much! Ladybug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiter Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 One of the problems with the older PEX plumbing, the metal bands expand a little, then start leaking. When it comes time to repair, we used the push on fittings, they are available in metal or plastic, and are compatible with PEX. ALSO - Make sure you use a regulator if you hook up to city water. Overpressure can cause leaks. We do not leave our water pump on. we just turn it on to do what we want, then turn it off again. John Mc 88 Dolphin 4 Auto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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